Book: Genesis

  • Lesson 6: Abraham’s Test

    Lesson 6: Abraham’s Test

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    so uh welcome back to Sunday school um we are currently on the Patriarchs of the promise series and for the past couple of lessons we’ve been looking at the life of Abraham and we’ve seen how God has been growing his faith through the various circumstances that um God has placed Abraham through we’ve seen how he interacted with lot and how he waited patiently together with Sarah for the promise of his son and finally last week we saw that excuse me I’m sorry sorry give uh God gave Abraham and Sarah their son Isaac and in this week’s lesson so this is lesson six of our series we’re going to talk about Abraham’s test and this comes from uh Genesis 22: 1-19 and this is arguably the greatest test that Abraham has faced in his life and this is the test that God has placed him through where he’s asked to sacrifice the son of Promise Isaac and in fact this test is referenced in other parts of the Bible for example Hebrews 11 verse 17 to 19 and here on the screen I have uh verses 17 and 18 and it reads by faith Abraham when he was tested offered up Isaac and he who had received the promises was offering up his only begotten son it was he to whom it was said in Isaac your descendant shall be called so before we begin let me pray for us father father thank you for your word um thank you for including this account in your word to teach us and to um teach us about Abraham’s faith and his Reliance on you and how you were faithful to him help us to have understanding and to understand your word correctly and may it transform our lives in Christ’s name I pray amen so this will be the outline of today’s lesson first I’ll talk about some introduction to the lesson and some background information that might be helpful as we look at the passage today and then we’ll move on to look at the passage which is Genesis 22 and applying the inductive Bible study method that we have been looking at for the past couple of lessons as well where we make observations about the text and then move on to interpret the text in other words we try to understand the meaning of the text and then of course the most important step of applying what we’ve learned into our lives and pray that the Lord would use that to transform uh the way we think the way we act in our daily lives yeah so um let’s get started with some introduction so what did we learn last week so we’re going to see how what we learned last week connects to what we’re going to see in today’s passage so in last week’s lesson taught by Pastor Dave we saw that God gave Abraham and Sarah a son Isaac in their old age and can anyone remember how old Abra Abraham and Sarah was when they had Isaac 90 and 100 right so Abraham was 90 and Sarah was 100 and how long yeah so Abraham was 100 and Sarah was 90 good he and how long did they have to wait for um Isaac since the first time God gave the promise in Genesis uh 12 right so they had to wait 25 years for their son Isaac to be born right so this is a sign significant amount of time that they had to wait for the promise to be fulfilled but in God’s perfect timing he brought this promise to pass right he fulfilled his promise that he made to Abraham but and this was not the end of the story right so we would see this week that Abraham is put to the greatest test that he’s faced thus far now that the the promised son is finally arrived um you you would think that all is well but um now God commands Abraham to sacrifice the Sun that he has waited for for 25 years you can imagine the kind of Agony [Music] and and yeah the the the emotions that was probably going through Abraham’s mind when he received the command from God to sacrifice Isaac whom he has waited for for a long time and so when we read about this account we would learn about Abraham’s faith faith and also how he what he knew about God’s character as he trusted God through this uh trial but furthermore it also foreshadows uh Christ sacrifice on the cross so as we look through this passage we would be U cross referencing other passages from uh the new testament which gives us greater clarity as to the meaning and the significance of what the Lord put Abraham through in this particular passage so uh more background um M Moriah is the site at which um Abraham was called to sacrifice Isaac and here I have a map of uh the journey that Abraham took from where he was living in bosba to Moriah and this was about a distance of 50 miles and during that time they had to travel by foot right so this is a significant Journey it’s a significant um distance that they had to to travel in order to get to the place of of the sacrifice and later In this passage we will learn that Abraham took three days to get from BBA to Mariah and furthermore Mount Mariah is a significant location in the Bible we’ve seen it um referen in uh later parts of the Bible for example um it’s where the trashing floor of ARA or Oran the jebusite is located and this is where King David built an altar to the Lord so that the plague may be held back from the people and we also know that this is the site of King Solomon’s Temple as referenced in 2 Chronicles 3:1 and later on this is also the site of King herod’s Temple and this is the temple that Jesus cleansed during his Earthly Ministry so this is indeed a significant place that we see reference throughout the Bible and uh we will also talk more about U the distance that Abraham had to travel in as we look at the text later okay so yeah with now that we’re done with introduction and background Let’s uh look at the passage that we have today and I’ll read from Genesis 22: 119 so please take your Bibles and turn there with me so starting at verse one now it came about after these things that God tested Abraham and said to him Abraham and he said here I am he said take now your son your only son whom you love Isaac and go to the land of Mariah and offer him there as his burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you so Abraham Rose early in the morning and settled his donkey and took two of his young men with him and Isaac his son and he split wood for the burnt offering and arose and went to the place which God had told him on the third day Abraham raised his eyes and saw the place from a distance Abraham said to his young men stay here with a donkey and I and the lad will go over there and we will worship and return to you Abraham took the wood of the burn offering and laid it on Isaac his son and he took his in his hand the fire and knife so the two of them walked on together Isaac spoke to Abraham his father and said my father and he said here I am my son and he said behold the fire in the wood but where is the Lamb for the burnt offering Abraham said God will provide himself the lamb for the burnt offering my son so the two of them walked on together then they came to the place of which God had told him and Abraham built the altar there and arranged the wood and bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar on top of the wood Abraham stretched out his hand and took the knife to slay his son but the angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said Abraham Abraham and he said here I am he saido not stretch out your hand against the lad and do nothing to him for now I know that you fear God since you have not withheld your son your only son from me then Abraham raised his eyes and looked and behold behind him a ram caught in the thicket by its horns and Abraham went and took the RAM and offered him up for a burnt offering in place of his son Abraham called the name of that place the Lord will provide as it is said to this day in the Mount of the Lord it will be be provided then the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven and said by myself I have sworn declares the Lord because you have done this thing and have not withheld your son your only son indeed I will greatly bless you and I will greatly multiply your seat as the stars of the heavens and as the sand which is on the seashore and your seat shall possess the gates of your en of their enemies in your seat all the nations of the Earth shall be blessed because you have obeyed my voice so Abraham returned to his young man and they arose and went together to basiba and Abraham lived at basiba so right so now that we’ve read the passage let’s make some observations um in the text so in in this part we would go verse by verse and look at some questions that we may ask about the text and see any interest interesting observations that we might have so first what did Abraham what did God ask Abraham to do so this is like at the start of the chapter to offer his son right so this is in verse two it says he said take now your son your only son whom you love Isaac and go to the land of Moriah and offer him them there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I tell you so it’s clear that God wanted Abraham to offer Isaac and he made this really explicit that this is the son that I’m asking you to offer right to notice here that God refers to Isaac as Abraham’s son his only son and if you remember what we’ve learned in previous lessons Abraham had another son right which he had with Hagar the handmaiden of Sarah so why is Isaac here referred to as Abraham’s only son because he was the promise MH right so Isaac was Abraham’s promised son and in in in this sense he is um Abraham’s only son and only rightful son of of of the promise right and I think if got we can we can speak of some hypotheticals here right if God told Abraham to offer up his son it it would be obvious which sign Abraham would pick right he would rather sacrifice Ishmael than Isaac because Isaac was the one in which God promised all the blessings to come through the the line of Isaac is where the Messiah will eventually come from and but God still chose to make it very explicit here which son he was asking Abraham to offer it was Isaac the son whom you love that you shall offer as a burnt offering in the land of Mariah and this makes it uh extremely difficult I can imagine for Abraham to process given that as as we talked about earlier that he waited 25 years for this child of promised to be born and now that the child is born he has to face this um trial of having to offer him as sacrifice and this brings us to our next question what was the purpose of God’s command and I think we’ve talked about this that this is a test that Abraham has to face and this is also mentioned in verse one of our chapter here right that God was the one who tested Abraham how interesting right so it’s it was God who brought about this promise this miraculous um birth of Isaac that Sarah was Barren for a long time and she was 90 when she had Isaac and now that this child is finally born God himself the one who brought about this miracle tested Abraham and asked him to offer up the child that he has given to Abraham back and we talked about how challenging this test is because of the fact that Abraham had to wait a long time for Isaac and also that all the promises that God has given to Abraham was going to come through the line of Isaac and God made it explicit that ishma would not be the one that uh the line of ishma would not be the one that would bring about the the blessings and if we keep reading on in the text uh what do we know about um when did Abraham act on this command to offer up his son next morning right the next morning right so in verse three it says that Abraham Rose early in the morning so the next day settle his donkey and took two of his young men with him and Isaac his son and he split the wood for the burnt offering and arose and went to the place of which God had told him um I’ve heard two different interpretations as to why um Abraham Rose early one being that Abraham trusted God completely he was ready to obey God whatever the command was he had come to such a point in his faith where it was easy to just obey God and even though it was such a challenging test for him as we talked about and there’s a different interpretation where um people say that Abraham Rose early because he just simply could not sleep the night before he had to sacrifice his child Isaac and I think whichever view you take the point is Abraham acted promptly right for whatever reason he got up early that morning he did not hesitate any further he acted on the command that God gave to him and you you can see here that he made necessary preparations for this journey as well uh we saw earlier the map from from BBA to Mariah this is not a short Journey he took necessary preparations for both the journey and the sacrifice that was eventually to be made to be made right he split wood for the burnt offering took a donkey with him and took two young men with him so we know that Abraham was an influential man of the time so he had servants and so these two young men were servants that Abraham had and and he took Isaac with them as well so yeah we so who traveled with Abraham we saw this in the same verse right so he took two of his young men these are two servants and also his son Isaac with him how long did the did the journey take so we learn about this in verse four so how long did the journey take yeah so on on the third day Abraham raised his eyes and saw the the place from a distance so this place is M Mariah where Isaac was to be sacrificed and we looked at the map earlier this is a j of about 50 miles so and when I was reading this passage before and also this time when preparing for this 3 days journey is not a short time to contemplate that at the end of this journey you would possibly see the death of your son and especially the son Isaac whom Abraham loved for I cannot imagine being in that same position and just thinking about how you would feel and kn knowing that you would have to obeying God would mean that you would have to kill your son I think I’ve heard stories of people having to uh put down their pet that is extremely ill so and even that is really difficult right so um there are some some cases where um a Pat is ill and you have to take the pat to the vet to get them to be put down so that you don’t prolong the suffering and even in those situations people find it very difficult emotionally to travel to make that Journey to the vet to to get to get that done what more if this is your son and the son that you really love so putting ourselves in Abraham’s shoes would help to understand the the magnitude of of this test and and understand the challenge that Abraham faced that very and yet we saw that he acted very promptly which is telling about his view of who God is and that he trusted that God would fulfill his promise of um blessing of of blessing to uh the line of Isaac somehow he did not know the details it it it’s going to be clear from this passage but he still trusted that God would be faithful to his promise and faithful to his word so as they arrived at Mariah what did Abraham say to his servants so this is in verse five yeah so he said here stay here with the donkey and I and the lad so lad being Isaac will go over there we will worship and return to you so think about it for a second were so if Abraham were to obey God and carry out the command this would imply that Isaac would be dead by the end of it right so this interesting that Abraham replied spoke to the servants in this way that wait here for for for a bit we’ll go over worship God and the two of us would come back return to you after we done worshiping right so he expect he expected that both Isaac and him would somehow return to the servants so just just keep that in mind and we will talk more about that as we interpret the text so what was taken to the sacrifice so now Isaac and Abraham have left the servants behind and they on their way to Mariah just just the two of them and we see that Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering and laid it on Isaac his son so Isaac was carrying the wood and Abraham himself took in his hand the fire and the knife so if you know anything about burnt offerings the knife was just meant to kill the animal that was meant to be sacrificed and the fire was meant to light the wood which was used as fuel to burn up the dead animal and this is just what was done for um for the burn offering and this is very peculiar because during this journey there was no animal that they took with them and this is exactly what Isaac noticed was missing and Isaac brought this up to his father Abraham so Isaac spoke to spoke to Abraham his father and said father and he said here I am my son and he said behold the fire and the wood but where is the Lamb for the burnt offering so every I’m sure every single time that um a burnt offering was offered and Isaac was there to witness it there was always an an animal that was present for the burn offering but this one specific time there is no animal that they brought with them so Isaac was probably confused and was just wondering what was going on and it was right for him to raise this question and then Abraham responded in a very interesting way once again Abraham told Isaac God himself will provide for himself the lamb for the burnt offering my son so yeah we once again see that Abraham knew that God would intervene in some way he had faith in how God would provide he did not know the exact details I’m pretty sure he did not know the exact details of how God would intervene but he had faith in who God was it was the object of his faith that was important here right not uh not knowing the exact details and then God eventually intervene as Abraham expected and at what point did he intervene so this was like at the very last minute uh Abraham had Isaac bound to The Altar and Abraham stretched out his hand took the knife to slay his son and at this point the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven and said Abraham Abraham and he said here I am he saido not stretch out your hand against lad and do not to him for now I know that you fear God since you have not withheld your son your only son from me so the Lord chose to intervene at the very last point where Abraham was committed to sacrificing his son like if the Lord did not stop Abraham at this at that point Isaac would have died but the Lord chose in in his wisdom to stop the sacrifice at the very last minute and not only that God provided a replacement for the sacrifice so uh does anyone know what did God do to right so at this point Abraham raised his eyes and looked and behold behind him a ram caught in the thicket by his horns and Abraham went and took the RAM and offered him up for a burnt offering in place of his son so notice here that this is not a ram that Abraham had to go out to look for it was given to him by God himself and then the ram was taken as a replacement for Isaac so instead of Isaac being sacrificed you have the ram provided by God that is sacrificed on the in in the place of Isaac and as a result of this whole encounter what did Abraham name the place of the sacrifice um no so right yes so Abraham called the place the Lord will provide all Jehovah Gyra and it said to this day in the Mount of the Lord it will be provided so a lot of things were unpacked here and so just keep keep just keep that in mind as we as we look at um in in the text what phrase is repeated three times in verses 12 22 and 16 yeah I think it’s interesting that um Isaac is repeatedly referenced as Abraham’s son Abraham’s only son uh so this here is in verse 12 and it’s also repeated in verse 2 and 16 and we we see that this has um the ultimate meaning is is fulfilled in Christ and we look at some verses later so what did the angel of the Lord say to Abraham a second time so the first time was when he stopped uh Abraham from from killing Isaac and once that was over and um God provided the Ram uh what did the angel of the Lord say to Abraham this second time yeah and then and then and after that he went on to reaffirm the the Covenant promise that he has with Abraham right so it says here in vers 15 to 18 then the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven and said by myself I have sworn declares the Lord because you have done this thing have not withheld your son your only son indeed I will greatly bless you and I will greatly multiply your SE as the stars of the heaven and as the sandwi which is on the seash shore and your seed shall possess the Gate of their enemies in your seed all the nations of the Earth shall be blessed because you have obeyed my voice so the the Covenant that God has made with Abraham and the promise that he’s uh and the promise of blessing that he has given to Abraham in the past got repeated here and even expanded and we will look at some details later okay so now that we’ve done looking at some key points in the passage are there any observations that you have made that has not been listed here oh Arthur is that close Okay um all I wanted to go back to uh one of the questions that you asked in the beginning and point out the fact that and I think I’ve mentioned this before in a Sunday School uh message that here we find the word love mentioned for the first time and what that does for me it immediately takes me to Matthew chapter 10 I think being a senior where where it’s mentioned and Jesus says to uh his followers that if anyone loves their father and mother more than me they are not worthy then he says if um then he expanded even more and he said son or daughter is not worthy of me and here we see we we we we get into the more complicated explanations for um this what’s going on between Abraham and his son but when we look at it from the perspective of the New Testament we see the for the first time um the story of the Gospel um especially when you mentioned about Isaac what was Isaac doing he was carrying the wood Jesus in the New Testament mentions about bearing your cross so um again we we see that picture uh a preview of that picture of uh when God would offer his only begotten son the word son being mentioned in the Old Testament and here it being mentioned and then uh the other thing I forgot because I was talking so long but the the the other thing that I wanted to mention is when we talked about three days journey MH and we know um 3 days again is mentioned in the New Testament so for me it seems like this is again a a sort of preview of what would occur thousands of years later yeah thank you arur yeah exactly and and some of that we will we will talk about as we interpret um yeah hi if you go back to the picture with the Ram oh you okay yeah um this is just to highlight the the goodness and the details of God because he was caught in the thicket by his Thorn his his horns he was already restrained because we have goats and you can’t restrain them they’re very difficult so God provided that as well yeah oh thank you yeah it’s interesting l oh um you know I had heard a sermon a while back and it was on having degrees of faith of weakness and strong and strength and um the emphasis was that when we and I’m I’m just thinking of personal application when I see a problem happening that I think Jack has to take care of I’m going to be ear in him like Sarah did right and that’s a danger because he has to be led by the Lord and now Abraham had all this time to think about his God okay and the application is is that when you’re looking at the temporal circumstances when you’re looking at okay God gave this promise and now we’re going to help them along we’re going to misinterpret scripture we’re going to help provide and he knew that that was weak Faith he was focusing on the circumstance listening to his wife wanting to please his wife and um this time all these years later he had all these years to think about that like I’ve made that mistake and he just had confidence in God because his focus at this point not that he didn’t sin again but at this point This Promise was given he was going to be a nation and his confidence was so strong that God has he going to give him a nation and when he knows you know ishmail is not the one and I can remember a specific time when Jack kind of um derailed me because I was in panic mode and saying you know this I think this has to be done and he just cracked me up honestly he looked at me and he goes now you don’t want two of you in this marriage do you and he was absolutely right right and you have to want them to follow God’s lead and not try to please their wife you know to get directly from God and I just I just saw all these applications of when is their weak when is their strength it’s when we’re really taking God at his word his Holiness his unchangeability his promises that we don’t know how it’s going to turn out whatever the issue is but he is faithful to us even when we’re Unfaithful and when you’ve made wrong choices it should teach us like I don’t want to go there again yeah so that’s how I saw the application oh amen yeah uh Glenda oh I I’m looking at um at Abraham all along Abraham God’s promise to him to the son he was in and out doubting would I have a son and I’m so old and everything but then we see after the sun came and God said this son you are going to offer him up to me and I look at the statement he said you and the L you and the servant and the donkey stay here but myself and the lad is going and we are coming back so right there I saw Abraham said this is I’m going we are both going to come back so I saw Abraham faith in that all all along he was doubting would I have a son would I have a son she’s so old I’m so old but at the point the son came with that statement but I see myself and the lad is going we are coming back so and go Abraham God is not God don’t want human sacrifices so all of this thing coming up in his mind so now we coming back we don’t know how it’s going to work out but we coming back so I saw his strength and his faith in God there amen yeah yeah I think that’s a good um way to enter this um segment of interpretation because we’ve covered some of the things that I plan to to talk about but yeah let’s keep going so why do you think God tested Abraham in this in this way in this particular way author I’m glad you asked that question because I was afraid I wasn’t going to be able to say what it was I forgot I was going to say before um this may not sound like it’s the answer but I I wanted to put this in our mind we focus on Abraham we focus on what he did and we apply that to how we should relate to God but there’s a bigger picture in this story and I I I tried to point this out in one of the messages that I gave um way back and it has has to do with that expression God said or the angel said to Abraham for now I know this is one of those expressions that um those who want to um deny the the word of God or to find ways to find fault with God’s word when when they talk about this expression for now I know what does that mean if God knows everything why would he say that this is the problem with human language when it comes to understanding eternity we get we think of we think of words like this from a temporal point of view whereas God uses language human language to to lay out his story for us which was um already decided on God even before he created time yeah so um I I I wanted to say that um because if we look at the bigger picture God is revealing to us his character the fact that he watched Abraham he was with Abraham throughout the entire trip when God said to him to go he was with Abraham when he said do because he was going to offer his son he was with Abraham he was there the entire time and um if we look at the bigger picture here um when we’re going through trials um we how can I say it like Abraham it will give us to do this to give us the strength to do things that um are like what Abraham did yeah thanks out thanks out yeah exactly and I I think that um um yeah you you touched on a couple of good points and things that I’ve thought of as well right so um Abraham’s Faith was grown and matured by by God through this entire time during this day where he was I guess three days where he was traveling to Mariah and also before right and as as you mentioned God already knew the faith that Abraham had and even though it’s spoken of in the temporal sense that now I know that you fear Lord which is mentioned later on in this chapter there was nothing that God did not already know yet the testing of Abraham’s Faith revealed strengthen and prooved the reality of the faith that he had and was in fact given to him by God through this entire the entirety of his life and we know from uh the New Testament from book of James right that um knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance and let endurance having it have its perfect results so that you may be be perfect complete lacking in nothing so we know that trials and um testing helps us to grow and mature in our faith having a more accurate and biblical view of who God is and we can trust in his character and furthermore this test of Abraham foreshadows what Christ eventually experienced and in the ultimate sense right and we’ll look at more of that as we keep going in this section okay so the next question that is related to this was God’s command for Abraham to sacrifice Isaac unjust or cruel and how does this align with God’s nature so there would be some people who would accuse God of being unjust or cruel for giving Abraham this command how do we um answer and respond to such an accusation oh Mark about ABR I love what Glenda said Abraham’s Faith had grown to the point where knew as Hebrews 11:19 says that God was able to raise the dead so he knew that even if he did slay his son God would somehow find a way to fulfill his it says God will provide for himself right so that that could have been what what we saw how it played out right so it was really um an extreme um if you may put if we can put it that way Act of Faith full trust in God thank you yeah so there a couple points that I that I thought of and one of them is exactly what you pointed out Mark in from Hebrews 11:1 17- 19 we know that Abraham trusted God to preserve Isaac by some means even if he had to raise Isaac from the dead and he would he could do that right and we know from the Mosaic law which wasn’t given at this point but we know that God’s character is unchanging that God does not endal child sacrifice right the there was Pagan practice um around Israel that um carried out child sacrifice but it was against the character of God to um carry out such um such acts so we know that um this was not according to the will of God that um that yeah that you sacrifice your child and I think the third point is that God is The Giver of Life right and we know that Isaac like the rest of us is a sinner and deserving of death so the fact that God gives us life and Spares us from Eternal death is God’s mercy so it’s not him being unjust for for him to take life right and we will see that um as a response to other accusations accusations about God in other parts of the Bible where he commands um the killing of people who were the enemies of Israel as well okay so moving on so what does Abraham’s Readiness to obey reveal about his faith and particularly about his faith in who God is so this is a specific pack passage I’m talking about right so he rose early in the morning so what does it say about how he viewed God Mike just just that it’s real it’s a real faith and alluding to what jod said it uh it could be faith in U degrees in a sense that two times God told Abraham to go and he did not know where he was going he did not know what the result would be but he went yeah so it’s a real Faith um and what was the other question revealed about his faith yeah so that that’s basically what I wanted to say I’m sure I had something else but it’s enough yeah okay yeah yeah and and it does foreshadow Jesus’s submission to God’s will as well right so uh included this passage here from Luke uh 9:51 so when the days Drew near for him to be taken up so this is referring to Jesus being uh crucified he set his face towards Jerusalem right he was Resolute in his mission he knew the mission that was set out to him by the father and there was no hesitation he knew where he was going to go and even though at times like like in the Garden of Gethsemane for example it was uh struggle right that Jesus was fully man and fully God so there was real struggle that Jesus had to experience and so here and I read uh and he went a little Beyond them them being the disciple and fell on his face and prayed saying my father if it’s possible let this cup pass for me yet not as I will but as you will he was completely aligned to the agenda of the father and was Resolute in accomplish ing that mission so this was how this is I guess some parallel to uh Abraham’s Readiness to obey God in this particular instance and okay so moving on what did Abraham say both to his servants uh why why did he say to his servants that he would return and with Isaac after they worshiped and why did he say to Isaac that God would provide for himself lamb for the burnt offering I think we did talk about this uh earlier when we when some of you brought up some points that you’ve thought of uh regarding the observations that we made we made so Abraham had clear faith in God’s promise right that God would bring about the blessings as he promised through the lion of Isaac he didn’t know exactly how God would preserve Isaac but he knew that God would somehow intervene in the way he spoke about uh how both Isaac and him would go worship and return Isaac being alive right and when he spoke to Isaac about God providing a lamb for himself he somehow knew the doctrine or the concept of substit substitutionary sacrifice something like God would provide a lamb that would take the place of Isaac and therefore he would not die and it’s not mentioned explicitly how he knew about this perhaps he heard about the account of the Fall with uh Adam and and Eve where got killed an animal to clothe them in their nakedness perhaps this is why he knew of this concept where an animal would provide a sacri a substitutionary sacrifice for sin yeah right so so Isaac was with Abraham through this entire Journey right so and looking at how he spoke about the um the lamb being missing and things like that how do you think he might have felt I think the Bible does not record Isaac’s emotion explicitly but from the evidence that we see in the text he was probably very confused and fearful as well I think when Abraham bound Isaac to The Altar and was holding up his knife ready to kill him he Isaac was probably very fearful and for for good reason yet he did not appear to resist resist there’s no record of Isaac resisting um this um being bound to The Altar and almost being killed by his father and Isaac was probably a young adult at this time and if you know Abraham was above 100 years old right so Isaac had the means of resisting and stopping this Sacrifice from being carried out yet he didn’t appear to do so so I think this is very interesting and how does this willingness to being to be sacrificed um parallel the way Jesus approached uh his own uh sacrifice uh Magda I was just going to say as a lamb to the slaughter I I think that um Isaac heard his father say we’re both coming back yeah and I think he believed and um I I think just as you know Christ was um you know on his mission and he knew the end um I think Isaac had a feeling that this was this was going to turn out for God’s purpose yeah right so Isaac trusted his father uh yeah yeah one just one more I guess uh I was going to say the same thing that you were saying about the nature of his relationship with his father yeah and it shows what has been going on for the past you know 16 or however many years and his trust in his father yeah he had such a deep trust in his father that that also parallels Christ and God yeah you know Jesus said they don’t take my life he gave it up willingly yeah exactly right so I have couple of passages here that talks about this right so from first Peter 2 21 to 23 for you have been called for this purpose since Christ also suffered for you leaving you as an example to follow in his steps who committed no sin nor was any deceit found in his mouth and while being revaled he did not Revol in return while suffering he uttered no threats but kept entrusting himself to him who judges righteously so he did not retaliate even though he had the power to and as magd pointed out he was like a lamb to slaughter Isaiah 53 right he was oppressed he was afflicted yet he did not open his mouth like a lamb that is led to the slaughter and like a sheep that is silent before it sharers he did not open his mouth and we know like Isaac Jesus had even more power and more authority to retaliate if he wanted to right yet he and trusted himself to the father just as how Isaac trusted Abraham throughout this entire process so here is uh during the arrest of Jesus when um the disciples retaliated Jesus said to him him Peter put your sword back in this place for all who have taken up the take up the sword Shall Perish by the sword or do you think that I cannot appeal to my father and he would once put at my disposal more than 12 Legions of angels so Jesus had all the power at his disposal to retaliate yet similar to Isaac and even in a even greater way he did not retaliate because he was focus on the mission at hand he knew what had to be done for the Redemption of his people and yeah so uh next question is how does Hebrews 111 17-19 give insight into Abraham’s faith and I think we talked about this a bit already about how Abraham had complete trust in the character of God that he would be faithful to his promise God cannot lie and God promised Abraham that is through Isaac that his uh promise of of blessing will be fulfilled and if it would if it takes God to raise Isaac from the dead in order to fulfill This Promise then then that’s what would be done God would do whatever he has to do to fulfill This Promise so this was the kind of faith that Abraham had and given to him by God I guess through his through the the entirety of his life the things that God has put Abraham through it that matured his faith to this point that he trusted God even to raise Isaac from the dead if necessary and yeah so the next question is um interesting one right so how does the L the ram caught in the thicket point to God’s provision we’ve also talked a bit about this up to this point but um does anyone have any comment about this author well I I have a comment um if I can jump back I I was itching to say this is that um previously when you had asked a question um about Isaac and how he um even though the scripture doesn’t give us any information um on his part of resisting his father what I wanted to say is is that when we talk about faith faith and we talk about the faith that Abraham had we how can I say many of us think this faith that that God had given to Abraham had some Supernatural um uh explanation but if we go to Paul’s writings in Romans when he’s criticizing the evil that was done um in Rome and he talked about they had no excuse but because the things that can be known by God are plainly seen and the things he’s made so I submit this for us to think about this is one of the problems I always say that with America today we’ve been separated from the land we’ve been separated from nature if we go back in the time of Abraham he watched the flowers bloom he watched caterpillars turn into butterflies he witnessed nature at its best and because he believed it’s obvious he believed that God was the one that created all these things the answer to his having faith seeing if you ever watched a calber caliper turn into a butterfly what does that caliper have to do because before it becomes a butterfly it has to die it’s in a shell it’s held in that shell until the time the butterfly um or well however it works um appears so what I’m saying is that we don’t understand the concept of death the way I believe the way that Abraham and um the progenitors um of that time how they understood it because they saw death in terms of what was happening around them so when people say it was cruel for God to tell Abraham to offer his son or it was cruel for God to sacrifice his son we don’t realize that death was the consequence of sin in other words death was something that God brought on mankind so however God chose for people to die whether it be an accident from a tree falling or from just age or what other we can we can watch the news and get an idea of how many ways people can die yeah we have to realize that that death is something that God allows to happen in the world so if we could understand death better we could understand um better the question that you’re asking I’ll let someone else answer that yeah I think we’re running out of time so I just yeah thank you for your answer I just keep moving um yeah so uh uh you talked about how Abraham was familiar with death and like the significance of death more than um us today perhaps and here yeah with the example of of the ram CAU in the thicket it points to God’s provision in the sense that it um captures the Ence of substitutionary ement which we talked about in the previous slide as well where you have Isaac who was supposed to be sacrificed and now instead of Isaac God provides a ram that was um caught in the thicket and now the ram is taken on behalf of Isaac as as the sacrifice to God right and this is the heart of the Gospel so um and Jesus is himself referred to as the Lamb of God by John the Baptist here in in the Gospel of John and um the essence of the the meaning of substitutionary at atonement is captured here in this verse as well right in 1 Peter 2:24 he said he himself so this being Jesus bore our sins in his body on the cross so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness for by his wounds we are healed so Jesus Christ Bears the sin of those who place their trust in him in Repentance and faith and there is this other Passage from 2 Corinthians 5:21 it says he he made him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf so that we might become the righteousness of God in him so Jesus Christ himself did not commit any sin but God made him who KN knew no sin to become sin on our behalf so there’s this replacement the idea of replacement where Jesus Christ took our place and bore the wrath of God due to sin on our behalf so that we might become the righteousness of God in him this does not mean that it’s easy belie believism but it’s it means that uh when we place our trust in Jesus Christ he takes our sin and this allows us to live a life of righteousness that a life that U is continuously being conformed to the image of Christ right and then the last question what is the significance of the repeated phrase your son your only son and our for the sake of time I’ll just um point that out so um I think God knew how precious Isaac was to Abraham and um by stressing that this is the son of the promise and this is also how um the New Testament speaks of Jesus right so in John 3:16 for example for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life so we KN we know how much God loves the father loves the son and this is to a smaller degree how Abraham loved Isaac so when we reflect on um this the way Isaac is being referenced we get a picture we have a window into how um big of a sacrifice was made when um the Son of God himself was sacrificed on the cross and I G I guess it gives us a sense of The Wonder of our own salvation for those of us who have placed our trust in Jesus Christ right the extent at which the the father had to go in order to save um his people and to redeem Sinners for himself and also in uh 1 John 4:9 right by this love by this the love of God was manifested to us this is how God showed his love to us that God has sent his only begotten son into the world that we might live through him all right so why does Abraham name the place the Lord will provide and uh Mike pointed out this is Jehovah Gyra one of the names of God and the reason why he named the place the Lord would provide is because God provided a substitute for Isaac right just like how how uh God eventually sent Jesus in the fullness of time to die for Sinners and notice here that he says the Lord will provide not that the Lord did provide at this point in time and this anticipates future action as well which points forward to the ultimate fulfillment of this very name of God right that God is indeed our provider he provides for our daily needs and ultimately he provides our Salvation through Jesus Christ and is also mentioned here in verse 14 that in the Mount of the law it will be provided so this is a prophetic declaration that this will ultimately be fulfilled in Christ um so and why does God reaffirmed his Covenant with Abraham in verse 15 to 18 I think there are multiple reasons uh so this uh listed here on the slide um in verse 15 to 16 we see that uh then the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven and said by myself I have sworn declares the Lord because you have done this thing and not withheld your son your only son so we’ve talked about how Abraham’s obedience confirmed his faith that God has uh matured in him to his his life and this was one of the reasons why God reaffirmed his promise to Abraham and we also see that um the Lord swore by himself in in this uh reaffirmation of the Covenant and we read about it in Hebrews 6 and it says when God made his promise to Abraham since there was no greater no one greater for him to swear by he swore by himself saying that I will surely bless you and give you many descendants so God’s overemphasizes the certainty of his promise it’s not that God could possibly lie but he was going to assure Abraham that you have seen my faithfulness in giving you Isaac and preserving Isaac through this entire um experience so you can keep continuing to trust me and we see in verses 17 and 18 that uh there’s an expansion of the Covenant blessings from what uh was spoken to Abraham before as well so here uh we see that um it’s spoken um Abraham is spoken was told about his seed and that his seed will possess the Gate of their enemies and we know that this seed is Jesus right we read about that in Galatians now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed he does not say to seeds as referring to many but rather to one and to your seed that is Christ so this um promise is ultimately fulfilled in Christ as we seen so yeah I We’ve ran out of time but here are some application questions for us to consider the Lord will provide so how does knowing this about God affect the way we live trusting God involves surrendering what we hold de do you struggle with this and what has helped you trust God more how does being reminder of Christ substitutionary atonement give you peace and Assurance of Salvation if you have trusted in Christ finished World um yeah we will not be able to discuss it uh during our time here but uh I hope that we would just take some time to consider it as we reflect on what we’ve learned about today and so let me close us in prayer father thank you for your word thank you for showing us how you’ve grown Abraham’s Faith through um his different life circumstances and how you were faithful to him to the promise that you made to Abraham and how the promise um eventually culminated in Christ and in our Salvation Lord I pray that you would help us to be assured in our Salvation not because of what we’ve done or because of what you’ve done and help us to keep trusting you in the week ahead in Christ’s name I pray amen amen

  • Lesson 5: Isaac, the Child of Promise

    Lesson 5: Isaac, the Child of Promise

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    welcome back to Sunday school we are going to begin we’re continuing to move forward in our Patriarchs of the promise series know we missed last Sunday or rather was postponed due to the weather so we’re going to jump back in and I’ll do a little bit of review for you so we’re all up to speed last time we saw how God formerly entered into a unilateral Covenant with Abram though Abram’s simple belief was a counted to Abram as righteousness we read that in Genesis 15 God also strengthened Abram’s Faith by a covenant ceremony God Alone walked through the cut pieces of animals indicating that God Alone would be responsible for bringing the terms of the Covenant to pass even the amazing promises regarding Abram’s seed these blessings would not be determined by Abram’s obedience ritual observance or effort we also saw however uh via VIA Mark how Abram and Sarai compromis in order to try and bring about God’s promise in a supreme irony just when God affirmed that he himself would bring about his word Abram and Sarah convinced themselves that they needed to help God help God Along by transgressing God’s marriage design and giving Hagar to Abram as a the second wife though what they did was wrong and only resulted in household Strife God dealt patiently and compassionately with Abram Sarah and Hagar and God is similarly patient with each of us though we ought to learn from the example of the scriptures even from Abram and we must learn that we we should not sin in order to bring about God’s promise God’s promises will be fulfilled we just afflict ourselves enough others when we try and sin to make that happen now today we’re going to see God’s promise of a chosen seed finally come to pass today’s lesson is about the birth of Isaac now why is this section of scripture significant well first we will see God vindicate his faithfulness and wisdom by gloriously providing the son of promise at the perfect time second however we will also see the truth of the Covenant ceremony of gen Genesis 15 reemphasized God’s blessings are according to gracious promise not according to works or ritual or even physical inheritance here’s our outline for today’s lesson we’ll start by looking at how God changes Abram’s name and gives Abram the sign of circumcision in Genesis 17 we’ll then look at the birth of Isaac and the dismissal of Hagar and Ishmael in Genesis 21 and we’ll consider application from each of these passages is for ourselves that’s our plan let’s ask the Lord’s blessing on this time lord your word is very great you are great God and this is an accurate record this is a perfect God breathed record Lord of what happened what you did and what you want us to know so God I pray that you would open our understanding to it and I pray God that as we understand it it would have a transformative effect on us just as you have designed your word to do and to be in Jesus name amen amen all right please take your Bibles and turn to Genesis 17 that’s where we’re going to begin today Genesis 17 we were in Genesis 16 last time as Abram has just obtained a child from his own body through Hagar the son is named Ishmael God hears that’s what Ishmael means now with this son Ishmael being born is this God’s promise from Genesis fulfilled note intriguingly God does not rebuke Abram for his helping action or at least it’s not recorded in the Bible in fact the Bible reports no appearance or word from God from Abram or from word from God to Abram for the next 13 years so were Abram and Sarai thinking for all that time that ishma really was the child of Promise they figured it out what God really wanted them to do now they have the promised son perhaps so and you can imagine we can imagine how Abram and Sarai were then planning their future around Ishmael being the heir 13 years have gone by but now in Genesis 17 God Appears again to Abram and Abram is going to learn some extremely surprising news and also receive a very surprising command as a sign let’s now read Genesis 17 and we’re going to read it in small sections and make observ ations as we go remember our inductive Bible study method is observe what do I see interpret what does it mean and apply how does it work so let’s first just read 11 I’m sorry Genesis 17: 1-8 oops I didn’t turn there myself Genesis [Music] 17 1 to8 now when Abram was 99 years old the Lord that is Yahweh appeared to Abram and said to him I am God Almighty walk before me and be blameless I will establish my Covenant between me and you and I will multiply you exceedingly Abram fell in his face and God talked with him saying as for me behold my Covenant is with you and you will be the father of a multitude of Nations no longer shall your name be called Abram but your name shall be Abraham for I have made you the father of a multitude of Nations I will make you exceedingly fruitful and I will make nations of you and Kings will come forth from you I will establish my Covenant between me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an Everlasting Covenant to be God to you and to your descendants after you I will give to you and to your descendants after you the land of your sojournings all the land of Canaan for an everlasting in possession and I will be their God now as we go through each of these sections there’s a lot that we can observe but we’re going to just have to observe the main things here’s some of the main things from what we just read notice how old is Abram now 99 years old we see that in verse one so this is 13 years after ishmael’s birth notice we see God affirming his Covenant promises again to Abram we’ve heard many similar promises to these already in Genesis but there are some new elements here notice God says in Verses 4 and 5 that Abram will be a father of a multitude of Nations or a multitude of peoples remember Nation people those words basically mean the same thing in the scriptures also in verse six God says that Kings will come forth from Abram that’s new and because of these facts God decides that Abram should undergo a name change he’s going to no longer be called called Abram or arah in Hebrew exalted father but now Abraham Abraham father of a multitude you can see it right he gives the promise about you’re going to be a multitude of Nations so now let’s have a name that signifies that father of a multitude but God has some other changes in mind in accordance with God’s covenant with Abram let’s read on Genesis 17: 9-14 God said fur to Abraham now as for you you shall keep my Covenant you and your descendants after you throughout their Generations this is my Covenant which you shall keep between me and you and your descendants after you every male among you shall be circumcised and you shall be circumcised In the Flesh of your foreskin and it shall be the sign of the Covenant between me and you and every male among you who is 8 days old shall be circumcised throughout your Generations a servant who is born in the house or who is bought with money from any Foreigner who is not of your descendants a servant who is born in your house or who is bought with money bought with your money shall surely be circumcised this shall thus shall my Covenant be in your flesh for an Everlasting Covenant but an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised In the Flesh of his foreskin that person shall be cut off from his people he has broken my Covenant okay let’s pause again here God calls on Abra Abram Abraham now to adopt circumcision that is the cutting away of the Flesh of the foreskin of all males this is part of how Abraham will keep Covenant with God but notice that God also identifies the purpose of circumcision what is the purpose according to verse 11 Glenda you mention separation from other people that will be an effect we’ll come back to that but that’s not what’s stated here I think I heard Mike you said it is a sign it’s explicitly stated by God this shall be the sign of the Covenant God’s already established his Covenant with Abraham but this shall be the sign of the Covenant this physical marking of the Flesh and notice the penalty of neglecting this sign is severe what is the penalty according to verse 14 you shall be cut off from your people now there’s some debate among interpreters as to what that mean does that mean you’re just exiled ostracized or does it mean death I’m persuaded from the scriptures especially different context where this phrase appears that it means death if you will not be circumcised and you’re among the people of Israel you are to be put to death I’m actually reminded of Moses experience later on in Exodus where he doesn’t circumcise his son and you remember the angel of the Lord actually comes near to put him to death but he saved at the last minute by his wife so this is serious this is a serious Covenant with a serious sign so Abram’s name has changed and he has this new physical sign of God’s covenant which Abram is to keep in obedience but wait there’s more let’s now read verses 15- 22 then God said to Abraham as for Sarah your wife you shall not call her name Sarah but Sarah shall be her name I will bless her and indeed I will give you a son by her then I will bless her and she shall be a mother of Nations Kings of peoples will come from her then Abraham fell on his face and laughed and said in his heart will a child be born to a man 100 years old and will Sarah who is 90 years old bear a child and Abraham said to God oh that Ishmael might live before you but God said no but Sarah your wife will bear you a son and you shall call his name Isaac and I will establish my Covenant with him for an Everlasting Covenant for his descendants after him as for Ishmael I have heard you behold I will bless him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly he shall become the father of 12 princes and I will make him a great nation but my Covenant I will establish with Isaac whom Sarah will bear to you in this season next year when he had finished talking with him God went up from Abraham now notice here that God changes Sarah’s name as well now saying that she used to be called Sarah now the difference between these two names is very subtle Sarai means my princess well Sarah just means princess or women of rank the hey which is like the H in our language it just is like a feminine marker at the end of a word or a name often in Hebrew so you might ask wait isn’t that kind of like a downgrade didn’t her name just become more generic she’s no longer my princess she’s just princess why would God make that change isn’t that a downgrade I would say no and this is the way to explain it uh I I read one source that explains the name difference in this way Sarai is no longer just her father’s princess when he named her you know my little daughter my princess you know you can understand a father wanting to call his daughter that he’s no longer she’s no longer just her father’s princess or even Abraham’s princess she is now the princess indeed the princess of the world because notice how this fits in with What God Says around this name change especially in verse 16 God explains that she now has a Regal position notice Sarah herself is Promised a son but not just any son one through whom Nations and Kings will come now verse 17 reveals a curious reaction from Abraham at the thought of Sarah bearing children what does Abraham do he laughs and he asks can this really be doesn’t directly ask that of God he says it in his heart then Abraham makes the suggestion to God and notice the suggestion he says oh that ishma might live before you that is May Ishmael be the son of promise and blessing you say well how do you know that’s what he means because look about look at how God responds we know this is the the sense of Abraham’s statement because God responds with no this isn’t like oh let Ishmael be alive and God’s like no he’s going to die no he’s saying I want Ishmael to be the blessed one The Heir God says no God does promise to bless Ishmael and make a great nation of him even 12 princes for Abraham’s sake wow what an honor and we do see this fulfilled in Genesis 25 but God makes clear that ishma will not be the son of promise or the inheritor of the Covenant instead God promises that in one year Abraham will have a child through Sarah and they to call the child’s name Isaac and what does Isaac mean he laughs he laughs furthermore God declares that Isaac not Ishmael would inherit Abraham’s Covenant with God we’re not going to read the rest of the passage but in verses 23 to 27 we he described how Abraham obeys God and has himself and all the males of his household circumcised including ishma all right with these observations let’s consider some interpretation now why does Abraham laugh is it from trusting joy in God or from mocking disbelief what do you think I think Glenda you have disbelief you say disbelief okay give me give me some support from the text for your answer because he’s questioning um he’s questioning him can a man which is a 100 years old and serious 90 years old can we really come together and have a child so I guess it’s right there he’s questioning God this is impossible cuz she’s past the age of having children not him but she so I believe that’s a little bit unbelief for me okay yeah so he asked the question which seems s to suggest that this is impossible okay other thoughts yeah pretty much the same with Glenda it’s just it’s been a long time Abraham’s gonna even though he’s almost half his life but yeah they’ve been through a lot hav’t born children in 99 years so yeah sorry I think it’s the other one because God doesn’t change and when um I’m trying to think of his name in the New Testament when Elizabeth was gonna yeah Zacharias um laughed and questioned God he made the angel made him silent um so I think there’s um God is going to correct uh a wrong attitude and I think Abraham was laughing injy Joyful Joyful disbelief and with god um also because of the the kind of conversation he had him with him before when he was going to destroy Sodom so they had that kind of um relationship actually that conversation comes afterwards so we’ve we’ve gone backwards in the text but you guys have pointed to important details of the text actually I’m going to I’m going to move on now um but I think the reason I wanted to hear from some of you is that this actually is a hard question to answer because the details do go both ways they do Point both ways on the one hand even as Leela pointed out God does not rebuke Abraham for what Abraham says in his heart which we might have expected If Abraham was really dishonoring god with doubt especially because in the New Testament Zacharias in a very similar situation is rebuked even to the point of being made mute and uh something I’ll say in just a second furthermore Abraham falls on his face when he laughs which is an expression of humble worship why would he do this if he did not believe on the other hand Abraham’s thoughts sound very similar to Sarah’s in the next chapter when the angel of Yahweh visits Abraham with two angels this is right before what happens with Sodom and repeats that oneyear promise of a child in Genesis 18:12 we learn Sarah laughed to herself saying after I have become old shall I have pleasure my Lord being old also it’s almost the same thing that Abraham is saying to himself here and listen to how the angel of Yahweh responds in Genesis 18:13 and 14 and Yahweh said to Abraham why did Sarah laugh saying shall I indeed bear a child when I am so old is anything too difficult for Yahweh at the appointed time I will return to you at this time next year and Sarah will have a son Sarah was rebuked for her laughter but she thought almost the same thing as Abraham so doesn’t he deserve a rebuke as well also if Abraham really believe God’s promise why does he immediately suggest that ishma be the heir instead so understandably Bible interpreters commentators they go in both directions as to what Abraham’s laughter means I am inclined to think that Abraham’s laughter is one of disbelief like his wife’s I wouldn’t be too dogmatic on that perhaps the reason that Sarah is rebuked and Abraham isn’t is because when Sarah laughs she already knows about God’s promise of a son via Abraham and this Revelation right here in Genesis 17 so she should have already progressed in faith and Zacharias in the New Testament he’s treated even more severely because it’s like you’ve had hundreds of years to look at Abraham and and um Sarah and their story and you you also have Samson’s parents when they were able to have a son even though it seemed impossible for them you should know this by now as a as a religious leader and priest how can you not believe in the face of all this time and evidence but I’m just offering that as a possible reason we don’t know for sure why God responds to Abraham the way that he does certainly we can say that God was very compassionate and patient with both Abraham and Sarah and that they both indeed do grow in faith they do come to believe that God can indeed work a miracle for them even in their old age and Grant them a child for Hebrews 11:11 says Hebrews 11:11 by faith even Sarah herself received ability to conceive even beyond the proper time of life since she considered him faithful who had promised by faith she comes to a place she and her husband come to a place of Faith now we might think as some Jews later did that circumcision was the prerequisite for Abraham to receive God’s covenant or for him to be counted righteous and saved before God but how does the greater chronology or the old events of of of Genesis refute this conclusion if you want to say you need to be circumcised in order to be saved or be circumcised in order to receive God’s blessings and promises how does Genesis refute that go ahead Mike yeah we’re just we’re not saved by our works we’re not saved by Deeds of the flesh all right that’s certainly true but how does Genesis actually proved this even in what we just read Dave go ahead Danny yeah God he believed God and was counted him his righteousness right we read that already right and we read that already in Genesis 15 and now we’re in Genesis 17 which means when he believed and was counter righteous was he circumcised or uncircumcised uncircumcised he was uncircumcised so this order of events is very poignant it’s very instructive Genesis 15:6 Abraham is counted righteous by belief before circumcision circumcision is given here merely as a sign it is a testimony it is a reminder of God’s special Covenant with Abraham and Abraham’s seed yes Abraham was called to be obedient in displaying that sign and actually having that sign yet the the sign is not what saved him it’s the faith it’s the grace through faith that God chose to Grant to Abraham and this argument this point that I’m making is the very same that the Apostle Paul makes in Romans 4 multiple times the New Testament writers are looking back to Abraham as an example of Salvation And Faith another question though why circumcision all the things God could have chosen to do as a sign why circumcision isn’t it a little grotesque there’s no explanation in the Bible as to why God chose circumcision as the sign of the abrahamic Covenant though if we think about it there are several aspects of circumcision that are readily observable and make it appropriate as a sign of the abrahamic promises for one circumcision is very intimate which fittingly reflects the serious and personal nature of God’s covenant promises second circumcision represents a cutting away at the most intimate level which is a concept that God will come back to in the Bible about man eating a radical cutting away or circumcision or change in the heart third circumcision would have and this goes back to something you were saying earlier Glenda it would have set apart the descendants of Abraham from most if not all of their Pagan neighbors God has in his wisdom various ways that Israel is going to be obviously separate he wanted to create a separate people as a witness to the Earth circumcision would be one of those ways and actually this would be quite apparent in even Jesus day where Hellenism Greek culture had become very prevalent around the Mediterranean and the Middle East and one of the things that the Greeks like to do was to do athletics and they did that naked and so if you want to be like yeah I’m all into Greek culture but you’re a Jew and you’re circumcised and you go into their little gymnasium when they’re all naked if you want to be like them you have to get naked too and guess what everybody’s going to notice a profound difference between you and them and so many Jews were embarrassed about this they wanted to become uncircumcised so that they could fit in with everyone else but God says I’m going to make you separate I want you to be separate forth circumcision is connected to the promise of seed and so it is appropriately reflected in the male seed bearing capacity in circumcision God is acknowledged both as the one who grants seed grants descendants and the one who will bring about the promises for those descendants for that seed we could perhaps say more but we can see even from just those four observations that circumcision serves as as an appropriate picture of different spiritual truths relating to Abraham and to Abraham’s seed but we also must note there is nothing magical or righteous about cutting away a part of the human body even the foreskin which leads to my next question is C circumcision required today what would you say no absolutely not not at all why I can I say that so confidently because the New Testament Apostles make this quite clear Paul especially in Galatians First Corinthians and other places being physically circumcised or being physically uncircumcised makes absolutely no difference now it was a sign and as a sign that purpose of it was fulfilled along with many other Old Testament pictures ultimately in Christ if you want to be part of the true circumcision those who are set apart to God even by this sign if you want to be a true inheritor of abrahamic blessing you don’t need a circumcision of the skin but of the heart which is only accomplished by the holy spirit in Jesus Christ in fact the Bible repeatedly warns against taking or ADD circumcision as a requirement for Christians which some of the Jews in the early church repeatedly tried to do and listen how Paul contrast True Believers with those preaching circumcision in Philippians 3:3 Philippians 3:3 Beware of the dogs Beware of the evil workers Beware of the false circumcision for we are the true circumcision literally we are the circumcision who Worship in the spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh you say oh you’re really emphasizing that Pastor Dave but but why I mean we all get that right well sadly even today there are groups calling themselves Christians who teach that followers of Christ must be circumcised and they must keep dietary laws and they must follow a whole bunch of other Old Testament rituals but we’ve already seen righteousness for Abraham came by faith apart from circumcision and that sign was fulfilled in Christ circumcision was only given as a sign and picture of what would ultimately be fulfilled in our savior so no circumcision is not required today you can or you cannot sometimes people talk about oh anatomically is it like better to be one or the other I’ve heard both sides and I’ve also heard that it doesn’t matter but in terms of righteousness or spirituality it has it makes no difference you say well why did the Apostle Paul circumcise Timothy in the New Testament that was only so he could minister to a certain group that was sensitive to circum decision he says I want Timothy to be able to minister with me to be with the Jews to do that it would be helpful if he were circumcised it was not because he needed to have Timothy be righteous in that way but it was just so that he could remove a potential stumbling block to the gospel so that might be the only reason that you might think at least from a spiritual perspective to to pursue circumcision now there’s more I’d like to talk about from what we read in Genesis 17 but I think it’d be more profitable if we do that after we read our next Passage so let’s move now to Genesis 21 just to give you an idea of what’s in the intervening chapters Genesis 18 and 19 those are chapters we already looked at they give the account of the Angels visiting Abraham and Sarah and God’s assessment and Judgment of Sodom and the other cities of the valley our brother Ian brought us through that a couple several weeks ago in Genesis 20 we didn’t go over this before but Abraham sojourns in the southern land of gar and once again fearing the king of the place King aimc he fears that king aimc would kill Abraham over Sarah who apparently was still quite beautiful at 90 years old Abraham asks Sarah and says that Sarah is only his sister tell them you’re only my sister and as before the king takes Sarah as his wife but God intervenes to protect Sarah and curses the king in his household until the king gives Sarah back to Abraham this the king does and gives many gifts and along with that as a testimony to Sarah’s being unviolated by the king in fact God says I kept you away from her because because she’s someone very special Abraham and Sarah go on their way along with Abraham’s great possessions and people and thus we come to Genesis 21 so we’re going to read this one all all together verses 1 to 21 so not the whole chapter but let’s read Genesis 21: 1- 21 then Yahweh took note of Sarah as he had said and Yahweh did for Sarah as he had promised so Sarah conceived and bore a son to Abraham in his old age at the appointed time of which God had spoken to him Abraham called the name of his son who was born to him whom Sarah bore to him Isaac then Abraham circumcised his son Isaac when he was 8 days old as God had commanded him now Abraham was 100 years old when his son Isaac was born to him Sarah said God has made laughter for me everyone who hears will laugh with me and she said who would have said to Abraham that Sarah were nurse children yet I have borne him a son in his old age the child grew and was weaned and Abraham made a great feast on the day that Isaac was weaned now Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian whom she had born to Abraham mocking therefore she said to Abraham Drive out this maid and her son for the son of this maid shall not be an heir with my son Isaac the matter distressed Abraham greatly because of his son but God said to Abraham do not be distressed because of the lad and your maid whatever Sarah tells you listen to her for through Isaac your descendants shall be named and of the son of the maid I will make a nation also because he is your descendant so Abraham Rose early in the morning and took bread and a skin of water and gave them to Hagar putting them on her shoulder excuse me and gave her the boy and sent her away and she departed and wandered about in the wilderness of beerseba when the water in the skin was used up she left the boy under one of the bushes and she went and sat down opposite him about a bow shot away for she said do not let me see the boy die and so she sat opposite him and lifted up her voice and wept God heard the lad crying and the angel of God Called to Hagar from heaven and said to her what is the matter with you Hagar do not fear for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is arise lift up the lad and hold him by the hand for I will make a great nation of him and God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water and she went and filled the skin with water and gave the lad a drink God was with the lad and he grew and he lived in the wilderness and became an Archer he lived in the wilderness of pan and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt all right let’s start again here with observations so the promised Day Has Come a son from both Abraham and Sarah has been born and how old are the parents Abraham is 100 and Sarah is 90 because we learned before she’s 10 years younger now do you know any couples having their first child at 190 yes lifespans were longer at that time but this birth in old age is still extraordinary both Abraham and Sarah confess before the child is born we are old we can’t have a child and yet they do they have one and consider the wait for this child Abraham and Sarah were childless when he left haran at 75 that’s the year that God gave Abram the promises and called Abram to Canaan now we don’t know how long they were married before that but surely they had been hoping for a child before Abraham was 75 just for illustration sake if they got married when Abram was 30 and Sarah was 20 then Sarah was Barren for how long if she gave birth at 90 and they got married when she was 20 she would have been Barren for 70 years no doubt the couple had renewed hope for a child after God called them and God gave Abram the promises that was at age 75 but it was still a 25e weight after that and we might give them a hard time for bringing Hagar into all this but they had been waiting for so long and they couldn’t understand why why nothing was happening consider all the hurdles they bringing about this child twice Sarah was taken by another man as wife that could have messed things up then there was the giving of Hagar to Abram which also could have closed off Sarah from bearing children forever why go to her Hagar actually can bear children forget about Sarah but through all this God was working he was protecting and he was remaining patient with this couple and at the appointed time exactly at the appointed time verse two the child of Promise was born actually you can see repetitions in verse 1 and two emphasizing that all of this was God’s plan as he had said as he had promised at the appointed time of which God had spoken Spen to him it’s not like God had an appointed time he’s like you guys keep messing it up I got to push it back no he says my plan is still going to happen exactly as I ordained it and look it’s now happened the child is named Isaac in accordance with God’s command but notice how the meaning of the name has changed he laughs was originally a reference to the weak faith of Abraham and Sarah but now what is the meaning of the phrase if you look verses 6 and 7 Sarah says God has made laughter for me everyone who hears will laugh so the scoffing laughter of unbelief and weak Faith what has it turned into joy joy the the laughter of grateful celebration and amazement what an appropriate name yes we didn’t believe at first but look what God accomplished how can we not laugh and give God praise notice that Abraham circum circumcises Isaac on the e8th day in accordance with the sign of the Covenant the command that comes with the sign of the Covenant in Genesis 17 which we looked at notice in verses 7 to8 Sarah nurses Isaac herself and later Abraham puts a great feast puts together a great feast in the day of Isaac’s weaning the day Isaac was to stop nursing this would have been about two or three years later women in ancient days often nurse much longer than mothers do today in America even up to three years old now that is just a descriptive scriptural detail that is not necessarily prescriptive a mother is not more or less righteous based on if or how long she breastfeeds now on this later day of feasting and celebration though conflict erupts again between the wives why is it notice verse 9 Sarah sees the the son of Hagar Ishmael mocking there’s a little play on words here because the word for mock in has the same root as the name Isaac it has to do with laughter so this now 15 or 16-year-old ishma is laughing at the feast but not in a good way and what does Sarah call for in response verse 10 drive out the maid and her son and notice the reason she gives for the son of the maid will not be an air with my son Isaac now that may sound kind of harsh but let’s remember how easily polygamy provokes jealousy and anger between wives and between their sons we’re going to see this happen again and again in the Old Testament it’s part of just the Lord showing you polygamy is not my design this is not good always brings Strife besides Sarah does have a point doesn’t keeping Hagar and Ishmael around confuse the inheritance and Covenant promises remember too that according to the law of Moses which doesn’t exist yet but it’s going to come who always has the right of inheritance and first blessing in a family the firstborn in fact Deuteronomy 21: 15-1 17 even says in reference to a situation of man having two wives that a man cannot make the son of the loved wife the firstborn if the son of the unloved wife was born first so according to the law of Moses the true firstborn must always receive their firstborn inheritance even if the father would prefer to give it to a different Son by a different wife so then according to the custom of the time and according to the later law of Moses who should be Abraham’s Heir Ishmael but God says it will be Isaac and now Sarah’s making a demand that Ishmael be given the boot and it’s not as if Abraham has no love for ishmail it’s not like when Isaac was born he was like I really loved you before but forget about you it’s all about Isaac now no he he still loves ishma and now he’s got the wives in conflict and there’s confusion about who’s going to be the first born just a few years ago remember Abraham was pleading with God that Ishmael might be the child of Promise so we can understand why Abraham would be very distressed in verse 12 Sarah kind of has a point but ishmail is still a beloved Son what do we do but then God speaks to Abraham gives him Direction what does God say Abraham go rebuke Sarah for being petty and unkind no that’s not what God says God says instead don’t be distressed listen to what your wife Sarah says why end of verse 12 for through Isaac your descendants or your seed shall be named and I will bless and multiply Ishmael also because he is your descendant and by the way we begin to see that blessing that promise fulfilled in the latter part of what we read verses 15 to 21 with God’s approval then Abraham sends his son Ishmael and his wife Hagar away he’s basically divorcing her with some basic provisions and that’s it no inheritance for Abraham for Hagar or Ishmael at all everything belongs to Isaac okay we’ve made our observations let’s take both what we’ve observed in both chapters Genesis 17 and 21 and think through some more questions of interpretation is there a purely natural explanation for the birth of Isaac is all this an unexpected but fortunate coincidence no this was a miracle this is a miracle in fact this was a miracle in fulfillment of God’s promise now there were natural means involved Abraham and Sarah would still have to have intercourse together to bring this about but the conception of a child by such means in Old ma in old age it was impossible without divine intervention this is why it is a miracle but we might ask why did God make Abraham and Sarah wait so long 70 plus or maybe 70 years for a child 25 years after God gave the promise I mean God is the powerful Sovereign this is not an accident for him he he specifically ordained that it would happen this way which means that this couple and Sarah especially endured years of pain sorrow waiting hoping and trusting but why couldn’t God just have spared them all that and out of the goodness of his heart just provided them the child that they wanted so badly earlier and we could ask the question more broadly why would a good all knowing all powerful God make any of his people wait to receive what is good this question forces us again to confront the Transcendence of God how he thinks how he desires and how he acts at a level far above our own why does God make his people wait for what is good what would you say Glenda I God is a god of time if you look but he said in the fullness of time he will send the son so everything God plan is time if you see what he tell Abraham in a year after this she is going to have a child so he had everything planned so nothing that they was trying to do couldn’t go out of God’s plan he’s a god of time and when the time come it’s like how he sent his son in fullness of time he had the time for Isaac to be born okay that is certainly true it’s not as if God is just well-meaning and he just let time get away from him no he’s in control of time so everything both with Jesus Christ and Isaac’s birth and the things that happened in our lives where we’re waiting that is exactly according to God’s perfect timing but still why I mean we often think God I have a more perfect time that you should follow why are you making me wait why are you making this person I love wait why did you make Abraham and Sarah wait go ahead Mark it was a test of faith um I think of Psalm 11949 says remember the word to your slave in which you have made me wait so it was to show God’s word to be true that’s one side and and then a test of Abraham would he believe it okay so Mark’s po pointing out that this is going to ultimately be a testimony to the faithfulness of God’s word and this is going to be a testing of faith of Abraham but someone might ask isn’t it kind of mean to test Abraham’s faith that way why would that be a good thing go ahead um AR well in the New Testament we’re given an answer where Peter in second Peter he says that God is um not slack concerning his promises but his longsuffering oh now I forgot the rest of well you know he’s longsuffering towards oh dear that’s what happens when you’re a senior yeah is um but he’s longsuffering to us word not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance okay that’s true too God is Not slack it’s not as if again going back to what Glenda said this isn’t because God is inept or God doesn’t care or God just doesn’t know this is purposeful and he doesn’t plan or want people to have needlessly suffer what I think maybe you already understand but what I I’m trying to point us towards is that the reason he makes people wait for what is good is because there’s something even better that they will receive ultimately by waiting it is because God is all wise all good and glorious that he makes his people wait listen to Psalm 8411 Psalm 8411 for Yahweh God is a son and shield Yahweh gives Grace and Glory no good thing does he withhold from those who walk uprightly God is not a miser God never withholds any true good from his people but what is the greatest good that he can give them is it getting everything they want in this life is it experiencing physical Comfort is it receiving relief from painful circumstances Jesus says he came to bring his people Abundant Life in John 10:10 but what is the essence of that life John 173 this is the eternal life or this is eternal life that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent and Jesus also prays in John 1724 father I desire that they also whom you have given me be with me where I am so that they may see my glory but you have given me for you love me before the foundation of the world so brothers and sisters I know you’ve heard this before but we must hear it again we must grasp the following truth if we want a steadfast Faith the greatest good we can have in life and Eternity is to see know and enjoy our glorious God God often displays his greatness he often shows us his glory brings us into a deeper relationship with him by putting us into hard circumstances even putting us into situations that seem impossible and we are tempted to compromise or despair but often when there is no hope left in such circumstances except for God that’s when God steps in sin and he powerfully rescues and vindicates say God you’re just making us suffer so you can have this glorious entrance why is that good so you can know him so you can see him so that you can learn to trust him that’s what Mark was getting at before with the testing of Faith God’s just like I’m going to test you and test you and test you that’s just what I do because I like to annoy people like that no it’s because I’m going to draw you closer to me I’m going to show you how wonderful I am so that you can find your satisfaction in me ultimately and not in the things of this world it is in this way that God grows us in faith causes us to know him more leads us to treasure him Above All Things even the blessings of the earth just as we ought to do I I like I think Emma shared this with me a quote from a preacher Puritan I can’t remember who but somebody who said something along the lines of there’s no Christian who’s gone through Affliction and at the end of it says I am not better for what I suffered if you’re thinking biblically if you truly know the Lord and when you go through a trial and when you come to the other side of it you say God was doing good to me the whole time if I hadn’t gone through that trial I wouldn’t be as blessed as I am now that’s the way God does it because he’s giving us the greatest treasure which is him always him this is what God did with Abraham and Sarah it was for their ultimate good it was for their good that he made them wait and not just their good it was for our good because we have their example we are to learn from their lives that we can wait on we can trust the same faithful Yahweh God at the perfect time God will provide exactly what is right and good for us just as he did for them he’s the same God until then we must wait in faith and obedience so we can’t help but discuss all that and not think about application has God put you into such a situation in your life right now are you waiting for something good are you waiting for deliverance from Temptation or difficulty are you waiting for Vindication under persecution and mistreatment if you’re not in a situation like that well guess what you will be soon this is part of what it means to live before God in this world this is how he blesses his children even Abraham after going through all this is not done going into Faith just wait till next week but we can learn even from what we’ve already seen in these two chapters you can trust God and his wisdom and his love and his power he knows your needs he is zealous to do you good he knows your suffering and your pain he’s not callous to your heart he he ministers his comfort and presence even to you in the midst of it but his love will not settle for giving you something less Le and the best God Is Not An indulgent father he is a good father so what are we to do continue in faith and obedience at the perfect time God will provide for you for you are his precious child he cares for The Sparrows he cares for the flowers nobody else cares about those he says how much more valuable are you to me than they he himself to be your Shield all the while Look to Him for your life not the passing things of the world World God wants your eyes fixed on him for there you will find satisfaction and true security one other question we should ask how is it right that God instructed Abraham to cast out Hagar and Ishmael isn’t such an act unloving to them and even unfair to ishma who was technically Abraham’s first born now this dismissal we should note in some ways was a blessing because in so doing Abraham was granting Hagar and her son Freedom she’s called a Bond woman in the New Testament what does that mean she’s a slave she was a slave wife yes I know that’s weird there’s a lot lot about that ancient time in culture which we could talk about another time but in a sense by sending her away he was giving her her freedom but it was a hardship at the same time they are sent with only basic Provisions they sent away with both only basic Provisions she would have to travel she apparently look looks to travel back to Egypt that’s why she ends up in the in the wilderness she was leaving Canaan for Egypt and she gets lost on the way she’s wandering and she and her son nearly die in some ways it was a blessing but in other ways it was a trial but God proved faithful to her and her son so that they were not truly abandoned and as to whether this was unfair to Ishmael as an inheritor we must remember the nature of God’s blessing Bings particularly His blessings to Abraham do the blessings of Abraham come as what is due to all the physical descendants of Abraham or as a gracious gift to certain chosen ones in Abraham’s descent the answer is it’s the latter Ishmael was the firstborn and he was circumcised but Ishmael was passed over in inheritance because God chose that the promises would pass to Isaac Instead This theme of God’s choice rather than man’s due by descent or Merit it is consistent throughout Genesis consistent without the scriptures throughout the scriptures but in Genesis we see Isaac over Ishmael Jacob over Esau Joseph before all his brothers in contrast to custom and even the later Mosaic law why because God wants to show that his Blessing even salvation blessing comes by grace unmar favor and not by works or descent we’ll see this too later in the people of Israel who are rejected by God in the wilderness God will destroy an entire generation of disobedient Israelites to prove that being an ethnic descendant of Abraham does not mean that you are a son of abrahamic blessing this is exactly what John the Baptist preached in Jesus day don’t tell me you’re a son of Abraham God can raise sons of Abraham out of stones and Paul says the same in Romans 9 6 to8 quoting one of the passages we read today Romans 9:6 to8 but it is not as though the word of God has failed in in many in Israel rejecting Jesus for they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants but through Isaac your descendants will be named that is it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants really what we’re seeing again here in Genesis 17- 21 is Sovereign election Sovereign Grace God has Mercy on whom he Wills to have mercy what are some implications of this truth I’ll give you three God’s gracious Choice means that no one should trust in works or lineage for salvation just because your parents are Christians or because you go to church doesn’t mean you know God you must ask does my heart really belong to God am I circum CCIS in heart have I truly repented and believed second God’s gracious Choice means that those without spiritual pedigree or Works should not despair Gentiles can be saved just as much as Jews notorious Sinners can be saved just as much as the seemingly righteous who are actually self-righteous and hypocritical because it’s not about your works or Merit or pedigree it’s about God’s gracious Choice God’s gracious Choice also means that God is the one who deserves Glory thanks and praise not we not any men why should you be the Isaac and not the Ishmael before God why should you be placed in the into the tree of abrahamic blessing and not others especially if you’re a gentile there is no reason except that God chose to pour out his love on you he chose to be gracious to you therefore how should you live a life of gratitude trust and obedience walk worthy of the Salvation that you have received not to save yourself or to keep your salvation it’s already been accomplished by Grace but just as a in a way a sign of obedience uh um what am I say a sign of Salvation a a a response of obedience and gratitude just as Ephesians 4:1 says even this God’s grace to Abraham and Isaac it was written for our instruction that we may learn from their experience to worship trust and Obey just as God’s spirit Wills for us to do all right we’ve come to the end of our time today if you have questions or comments you can come share them with me afterwards or send me an email this certainly sounds like a good place in the scriptures for and then Abraham and Sarah they lived happily ever after and there were no other issues for him or for Isaac faith is Vindicated the child has arrived we can just close the book well no because this is just the next step in God’s Great Plan of Redemption and God is not done growing and displaying the Salvation faith of Abraham next time we’ll see Abraham put to the ultimate test with a command to sacrifice this long awaited beloved Son right when he’s probably of age to get married and to start the next line of descent God says I want want you to sacrifice him to me how will Abraham respond to that it’s amazing our brother hos will lead us through that next time but that’s it for today let’s close in prayer Lord again I I think of the song lyrics It’s Your Grace from beginning to the end it’s your grace we can never comprehend how you drew the ones who ran from you you what can we do but offer you praise Lord thank you that you not only made known your gospel to us but you accomplished what we could never accomplish for ourselves which was the circumcision of the heart you had to give us new Hearts God because we would never turn to you we would never actually choose your salvation but you made us alive you made us one of your seed and you drew us after yourself so that we could become inheritors even of these amazing salvation blessings from Abraham in Jesus Christ we thank you for Jesus Christ we thank you for this text today I pray God that we would Revel in your salvation but also learn to trust you especially in the times of painful waiting you are not being unkind to us you’re are being kind in a way that we did not expect help us to trust and believe that even when our feelings and our understanding Lord of circumstances don’t correspond with that help us to believe your word over the feelings of the Flesh in Jesus name amen amen thank you everyone

  • Lesson 4: God’s Covenant with Abram

    Lesson 4: God’s Covenant with Abram

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    morning everyone and uh Happy Groundhog Day for those of you who celebrate that uh we’re going to continue our Series today in um the Patriarchs um and God’s covenant with Abraham so if you have your Bibles or your device please turn to Genesis 15 we’ll be spending our time mostly today in Genesis chapter 15 and 16 key verse for today today goes actually back a couple chapters um to Genesis 12 and Yahweh said to Abraham go forth from your land and from your kin and from your father’s house to the land which I will show you and I will make you a great nation and I will bless you and make your name great so you shall be a blessing a very foundational verse for us about the founding of the nation of Israel and also uh for us uh the foundation of the Gospel you notice in this verse that like with us in Christ God calls us from something and to something and we’re going to explore a little bit more what those specific things are from our chapter after these things the word of Yahweh came to Abram in a in a vision saying do not fear Abram I am a shield to you your reward shall be very great would you pray with me Father God we praise you for laying the foundation from eternity past for our Salvation today and I pray that we would learn to love your design through these flawed Patriarchs first and foremost of your perfect fatherhood in our lives your perfect Redemption of flawed men from these historical figures to us today and your Redemptive purposes from these foundational times right down to our lives today um I think of how the uh how King David prayed restore to me the joy of your salvation and part of that is just understanding where it came from and so I pray that this would be a great joy to us today as we explore your word together would you meet us and speak to each heart as only you can and transform us as only you can by your spirit amen amen well uh just a brief outline uh we’ve got a lot to cover today so I like to be a bit more interactive as you know I may have to just Tamp that down just a little bit to get through the material so I hope you’ll bear with me but my intent is to have a little bit more time for interaction toward the end okay so as you know from our previous lessons it’s kind of a question and answer thing as we just walk through the passage and observe it um so I’m going to give the answers but sometimes I will ask you for them before I give them okay so we’ll we’ll get through this together so I want to spend a couple minutes on what the patriarchy is and God’s design for that uh patriarchy is a can come across like a swear word I think in this cultural moment Am I Wrong uh abolish destroy the patriarchy right and it depends what you mean by that uh so uh when we when we read a a topic like this I think we want to be very clear on what that means and and embrace God’s design we’re going to give some SC scriptural and historical background so we’ll be primarily in Genesis 15 and 16 but we’re going to bounce around just a a little bit within the Book of Genesis mostly um and as we do in good Bible study we’re going to observe the passage we’re going to interpret and correlate it with other passages uh and then we’ll we’ll talk about life application which is the whole point right uh Jesus said uh to his disciples if you know these things you’re blessed if you do them and so let’s be blessed today as God moves in our hearts so patriarchy and God’s design uh this passage here uh from acts 8 acts 7 describes all really all of the characters that we’ll be covering in these in this series right and he gave him the Covenant of circumcision that’s Abraham and so Abraham was the father of Isaac and circum circumcised him on the eighth day and Isaac was the father of Jacob and Jacob of the 12 Patriarchs this is the only time this word is found that I could find in the Bible Patriarchs and the Patriarchs becoming jealous of Joseph sold him into Egypt yet God was with him and so we see that our series covers the foundational lives of these men these are these present to us kind of the found all of Genesis really as foundational to understanding the world understanding our faith and specifically to understanding the gospel and I want to point out that these men are flawed I call them flawed but faithful I think that’s how I think I got that from John Piper as he described some of these characters in The Bible flawed but faithful and they provide to us both positive postive and negative examples to me this is one of the great apologetics of the scriptures being true because they don’t sugarcoat the flaws of the people who came before us and so you can look at them and say Yes I want to imitate their faith but no I don’t want to imitate their sin and their deception which we see on full display don’t we as we read the book of Genesis I’m oddly encouraged by that if that makes sense there’s a sense in which we should be encouraged by that that the determining factor in making all this happen is God if it depended on us we would not be here today so praise God for his faithfulness um I looked in the dictionary to find um just some definitions of patriarch and and want to talk a little bit about its common use today and address that biblically uh first definition I found was a form of social organization in which the father is the supreme authority in the family Clan or tribe and descent is reckoned in the male line with the children belonging to the father’s Clan or tribe that’s kind of the traditional cultural view of historically what patriarchy has meant another definition is a social system in which power is held by men through cultural norms and Customs that favor men and withhold opportunity from women I think that’s what a lot of people think about today when they hear that word um the scripture affirms neither right uh there’s elements of Truth in the first but neither is a biblical definition only God is a supreme authority no father of his own no Pastor no male leader is a supreme authority in fact when it talks about elders and Pastors in a church it refers to them as unders Shepherds right and I hope you get that whenever we teach we’re not really the ones running this show right uh whenever I teach I hear some things for the first time too because God is guiding me right he’s really in charge of all of this and so we want to affirm that God is a supreme authority creating men and women in His image equal in value and also equally accountable to him amen we all have a role to play in this that God has designed and we do well uh we do well to follow that design we don’t do well to abandon it let’s talk about the father fatherhood of God this verse is precious to me I hope it is to you particularly if you are a parent I remember as a as a single man I appreciated this verse but I remember the first time I read this first after I became a father and it just it just leapt off the page for me if you then being evil know how to give good gifts to your children how much more will your father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask him and in in other gospel says give the Holy Spirit what is ultimately good to those who ask him this is the fatherhood of God that we embrace the loving fatherhood of God so the Biblical word or concept of patriarchy simply refers to the founder or head of the household it’s a divine order which is to reflect the perfect fatherhood of God I was talking to a friend yesterday and I know that my effect in this or lack thereof as a parent is directly related to how I respond to my heavenly father as his child those things connect and that’s a wonderful thing if I didn’t have that to draw on I’d be totally lost and I would do really incalculable damage to my my children not to say that I haven’t made mistakes but I keep looking to the fatherhood of God so when we think patriarchy think about that and think about God’s design and providing these men for us as examples okay just wanted to in this cultural moment I thought that was important uh to talk about okay so our title today is God’s covenants with Abraham so let’s talk a little bit about what a covenant is um we see the word both in the Old and New Testaments and this was a great summary for us from the lexum Bible dictionary uh it’s a sacred kinship Bond or bond between a sacred kinship bond between two parties ratified by swearing an oath Covenant making was a widespread custom throughout the ancient near East and Greco Roman culture serving as a means to forge sociopolitical bonds between individuals or groups God’s covenants are prominent in every period of Salvation history Divine covenants reveal the saving plan of God for establishing communion with Israel and the Nations ultimately fulfilled by the death and resurrection of Christ with that in mind let me show you this uh this diagram that I found really helpful I don’t know how well you can see that um but uh this came from a pastor friend of mine named Reed Monahan and I just thought this was so helpful as he unfolded for us in a in a this is from a really a family discipleship class I’ll put this in the slides you can look at it and we see um how the covenants have unfolded throughout history and culminate in Christ you see that line in the middle it’s God’s decrees God’s purposes consistent throughout but it’s like a it’s like a wave coming into the shore right it keeps growing and growing and growing and growing it culminates in Christ Right started with Adam and then Noah then Abraham I can’t even read this make sure I get it right then David Moses I’m sorry Moses right then David uh and then the New Covenant uh which Ezekiel and really you see hints of this maybe not even so subtle hints of the New Covenant throughout uh the Old Testament particularly in Ezekiel I will give them a new heart and cause them to walk in me praise the Lord that he does that and so you see God’s purposes unfolding uh for for more detailed treatment on Covenant I I will put this uh Link in the slides that we send um our brother M ricardi has put together uh a detailed chart on how all the covenants work some are unilateral meaning carried out by one person and that’s God that’s the kind of Covenant we’re talking about today some are bilateral between two parties and so all of those foreshadow the gospel so I’ll send that out uh for your further study if you are interested so that’s the covenants so let’s get into Genesis chapter 15 God promises Abraham a son and many descendants now if you read read a little further on we we alluded to this that at this point his name was Abram not Abraham and when you think about him his him being an older man not being able he and his wife not being able to have children right Abram I think means father of many then Abraham means father of Nations and it sounds kind of sounds like a joke at this point that that would even be possible but it is based on the Promises of God so looking at the passage um I’m just going to read the first few verses in fact let me do this just to be uh uh for our benefit let me just read uh through chapter 15 which isn’t that long after these things the word of Yahweh came to Abram in a vision saying do not fear Abram I am a shield to you your reward shall be very great and Abram said oh Lord Yahweh what will you give me as I go on being childless and the heir of my house is Eleazar of Damascus and Abram said since you have given no seed to me behold one born in my house is my Heir then behold the word of Yahweh came to him saying this one will not be your Heir but one who will come forth from your own body he shall be your Heir and he brought him outside and said now look toward the heavens and Number the Stars if you are able to number them and he said to them so shall your seed be then he believed in Yahweh and he counted it to him as righteousness and he said to him I am Yahweh who brought you out of er of the calans to give you this land to possess it and he said oh Lord Yahweh how may I know that I will possess it he said to him bring me a three-year-old heer and a three-year-old female goat a three-year-old RAM and a turtle dove and a young pigeon then he brought all these to him and split them into Parts down the middle and laid each part opposite the other but he did not split apart the birds then the birds of prey came down upon the carcasses and Abram drove them away now it happened that when the sun was going down a deep sleep fell upon Abram and behold behold Terror and great Darkness fell upon him then God said to Abram know for certain that your seed will be sojourners in a land that is not theirs and they will be enslaved and mistreated 400 years but I will also judge the nation to whom they are enslaved and afterward they will come out with many possessions as for you you shall go to your fathers in peace you will be buried at a good old age then in the fourth generation they will return here for the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete now it happened that the sun had set and was very dark and behold there appear appeared a smoking oven and a flaming torch which passed between those pieces on that day Yahweh cut a covenant with Abram saying to your seed I have given this land from the river of Egypt as far as the Great River the great the river Euphrates the kenite and the kenite and the cadmon and hittite and the perizzite and the ref ream and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the girgashite and the jebusite jebusite All Peoples which notably do not exist anymore more so how did Abraham hear from God and we see it here in a vision right in a dream how did God identify himself I’ll let you guys chime in anyone want to shout that out how did God identify himself a shield yeah and a great a great reward it’s interesting that the various translations of verse two some say um so here it says I’m a shield to you your reward shall be very great some seem to implicate implicate that that reward is God himself I am your great reward I think that’s that’s part of it um but we certainly know that God is a shield and a rewarder right Hebrews 11:6 says that that he who comes to God it says without faith it is impossible to please God for he who comes to him must must believe that he is and know that he is a rewarder of those who seek Him is it worth it to seek God yes and yes and yes right not apparently so at this point for Abram what was Abram’s response to God’s appearance look at verse two he’s he’s a little confused right this does not make sense to me I’m childless and I only have an heir that’s a servant not an actual son and he he reminded God that he did not yet have an heir right I think God knew this um but it’s interesting that this is theer the first time it’s recorded that Abraham talked to God up to this point God is talking to Abraham this is the first thing he says to God I don’t think it’s a great start right you see those a little bit of doubt in that but he shared his heart which is important who did the Lord tell Abram his Heir would be his very own son not his legal Heir Eleazar and I think what we see unfolding In this passage is God’s design for things as ju deposed with cultural norms or Traditions right this is an this is one example of it right yeah legally culturally that would have been fine to make him your your Heir but that wasn’t God’s design God had something more and better in mind how many offspring would Abram have someone shout that out you’re going to have two kids you’re can have three kids count the Stars right as many as the stars as many as the Stars we see that in verse five right look toward the heavens and Number the Stars now for us it’s not as impressive as it probably would have been in the ancient near East with the lack of light pollution they could really see it if you ever talk to people who are as or people stargaze they go to these places and it it’s it’s like it’s it’s just a whole different experience than we experienc it and imagine seeing something like that every day you know on a clear night uh so Abraham Abraham had a very Vivid vision and of course scientifically we know billions and billions and billions and billions of stars right and so we’re not going to be literal in terms of are there billions of Israelites no actually the the population is is quite small but who is the seed as we know from the New Testament the seed is Christ and salvation to All Nations is part of this promise yeah well there we go where did Abram’s righteousness come from According to verse 6 a very foundational verse for us where did Abram’s righteousness come from from Yahweh how so what God put upon me yeah yeah look at verse five someone we’ll just read I’m sorry verse six and he believed in Yahweh and he counted it to him as righteousness what a great gospel foreshadowing that is right I think it’s clear that in many ways Abraham was not a righteous man at this point in fact we know from from the previous lessons that he was quite unremarkable you look at some of the the the passages in scripture you look at Noah right he was a righteous man he stood out right Daniel so many others Abram was not one of those people he wasn’t God just just chose him and I think there’s a message there for us so he he God credited him with righteousness because he believed God hopefully you know from the gospel we don’t earn righteousness we can’t achieve righteousness it’s got to be imputed to us right and so this is the case with Abraham and and I think this is a big part of why we read these stories and why he’s so flawed clearly he didn’t earn it clearly he didn’t have it right and that’s wonderful for us to know what figures symbols or practices do we need to understand to interpret or interpret from this passage and so this is we read this what’s happening with the animals and the smoke and that that’s kind of unusual right really foreign to our experience foreign to our understanding and so we’re going to we’re going to talk about that just a little bit understanding the dividing of the animals and what the fire pot and torch represent will be important in understanding the passage so I’m just going to read just a brief paragraph that was actually from this study guide that I just it could it explains it better than I ever could so if you don’t mind I’m just going to put this on the slide for us and just read it to you at the time of Abram a covenant was much more dramatic than a simple handshake it was a sacred sign it seems strange that God would request a three-year-old heer a three-year-old female goat a three-year-old Ram a turtle dove and a young pigeon after Abram questioned him about the land which he was to inherit but this was the requirement of some ancient covenants a promise between two individuals sometimes provided cutting animals in half and placing them on either side of a pathway the pledging parties would walk between the flesh freshly killed animals on the side of the curse as a sign of the curse they were willing to accept if they rened on their agreement may they too let me see can I read this may they too he cut a limb from he cut limb from limb as these animals had am I reading this right they were willing to accept if they oh yeah if they were an agreement they too would be cut limb from limb just as the animals had done so so this is a very very Vivid image right this is this is a serious thing it’s not just you know I’ll see you tomorrow or I’ll do this for you this was a solemn oath with consequences right and so uh keep in mind that in the ancient near East there was two parties doing this but we see something just a little bit different here so let’s continue through the passage what attributes of God are on display here and here I’ll open it up what do you see about God In this passage it’s okay I can keep going I’m sure you guys will we’ll talk a little bit more later oh Magda I’m thinking maybe he is uh drawing on what Abraham would understand his culture for sure yeah that that’s one of the wonderful things I could say a lot about this um how culturally transferable the gospel is I don’t know if if if any of you have um I’ll go down this Rabbit Hole just a little bit I don’t know if any of you have any Muslim friends um I do and some who are very very devout and one of the things that intrigues me as I talk to them is I said why why is your faith not more culturally transferable to be faithful I have to learn Arabic to be faithful I have to dress a certain way you know like like an Arab from the Middle Ages like that’s to be faithful Christianity on the other hand transcends and speaks into all cultures right it’s amazing so this was part of God’s plan to have this be part of the cultural moment that he used for his purposes um what we see here is Independence right God doesn’t need people but he uses them to fulfill his purposes we see that that really threw out you know God could have just done this by Fiat but he he CH chose to use Abraham and by some wonderful Miracle he chooses to use us isn’t that incredible incredible I think we also see his Sovereign will uh God chose Abram who as I mentioned was really unremarkable nothing he was a he was a a moon worshipper just a pagan guy nothing about him stood out and God said I’m going to pick that that guy why because that’s just my choice right right and God does that with people through history and Us in Salvation what was required of Abraham Abraham in this contract what did he do if you look a little bit further uh starting in verse verse 12 uh what did what part did Abram play in executing this Covenant nothing nothing nothing that’s right you could keep looking for it but you’re not going to find it uh nothing in fact it was a unilateral Covenant as we referred to earlier fulfilled by God when Abram was asleep all right that didn’t require a lot of energy on Abram’s part or even his attention right uh God did it in his sleep can you think of others in the scripture who God worked while they were sleeping I know there’s some some really interesting examples and I I see you smiling Cheryl what what what came to mind no okay you’re just SM uh Magna again I think you go ahead Eve Eve yeah God created Eve while Adam was asleep yeah that’s something that’s the first one that that’s a big one that I thought about what else anything else come to mind now we have Cheryl go ahead actually okay I think you was he first I don’t know we’re not timing this it’s not precise So yeah thank um um this is kind of tricky to say it but when God was calling Samuel and um he every time he called him or before he finally followed the instructions that were given to him yeah by was it Eli Eli Yeah by Eli U Eli realized that yeah God was calling him but he was calling him when he was asleep he say here I am yeah that’s wonderful brother I hadn’t thought about that uh Eli as a boy was dedicated at the temple by his mom and then uh God woke him up yeah Cheryl Joseph Joseph yeah Jacob and the uh he was asleep on Holy Ground with the with the stairway um with the angels going up and down to Heaven Glenda Elish Eli Elijah when he was asleep and the angel woke him up and said get up get up what are you doing here mhm and then God spoke to him and said you know eat this and you you’re going to do is 40 days with on this fastest so he he was asleep because he was running from ahab’s wife M so when God met him in the wilderness he said why what are you doing here you just had a great Victory what are you doing here wake up eat this meal and you’re going with this me for 40 days yeah yeah um there’s a number of them Solomon is one to comes to mind um God get that trans that interaction with God was happened in a dream you know uh and I look at um Psalm 127 which is a Psalm of Solomon and um in verse two it says in in vain that you rise up early and you sit out late oh you who eat the bread of painful labors for in this manner he gives sleep to his his beloved another translation is he gives to his beloved in his sleep right so we see at the very least God as the initiator and certainly as as the one who accomplishes I think he’s sending us a message here how how much does God need us he doesn’t need us at all but he includes us and He blesses us Steve we say when we say Joseph I mean was it are we referencing Jesus’s father and or the patriarch so to speak is that what you were referring to Glenda Jo um I’m sorry Cheryl was it Joseph in his dream or yeah Joseph um the other patriarch that we get to his father Jesus his Earthly father Jesus his Earthly father as well both Josephs yeah great so we could probably keep going but we I think you get the idea God’s telling us something here so um he was asleep yeah go ahead Arthur oh I just wanted to mention one more put yeah mention one more when Jesus said to the crowd when they were bewailing the little girl the the daughters and he says she’s asleep yeah he uses that term we understood that she was dead but she was dead yeah and the interesting thing about it is that um even though Jesus brought her back to life we never get any of these wacky stories that when people die they go to heaven or you know we don’t see that ever in the Bible yeah so interesting I I was thinking about that and I wasn’t going to go there but I’m glad you did because a dead person has nothing to do with their Resurrection do they that’s pretty unilateral right we were we were dead in our trespasses and sins but God who is rich in Mercy raised us up to New Life that’s that’s kind of the ultimate and that’s what all of this foreshadows so uh verses 12- 16 what event is foreshadowed and this is really interesting we uh we went through Exodus um in the men’s group last last year um and it was interesting to see the background before it the the the time in Egypt was foreshadowed starting in verse uh verse 12 yeah well going ahead to verse 13 you will be enslaved and mistreated 400 years but I will judge the nation to whom you were enslaved and then really interesting um phrase we see it there in verse 16 for the iniquity of of the Amorite is not yet complete and there’s a lot that can be said here and we’ll get into this with the con conquest of Canaan the patience of God to give 400 years for evil Nations to repent right people get hung up on the the so-called genocide of the Canaanite Conquest two things I just want to point out there as an apologetic one is God’s patience right giving them time um he was forbearing with them secondly the curses That Came Upon them these were not ethnic curses right these curses were promised to Israel as well if they were unfaithful to God so God shows no partiality the blessings and the curses are available to all we’re going to get into that more with the Canaanite Conquest that’s a that’s a big objection I think that people have to both the nature of God and the veracity of the Bible so that one’s for free um note the forbearance of God I mentioned that right before the conquest of Canaan and that is really worth thinking about I don’t know if in your conversations with unbelievers if that has come up I think this is worth studying a little bit and talking about um you don’t see a genocidal angry out of control God you see a patient loving forgiving gracious God that’s what you see all right and that let’s go on the uh Genesis 16 let me go ahead before I go to Genesis 16 any any comments or questions about Genesis CH 15 15 all right Read With Me Genesis chap 16 I think we’re doing great on time now Sarah Abram’s wife had borne him no children and she had an Egyptian servant woman whose name was Hagar so Sarah said to Abram Now Behold Yahweh has shut my womb from bearing children please go to my servant woman perhaps I will obtain children through her and Abram listen to the voice of Sarah and after Abram had lived 10 years in the land of Canaan Abram’s wife Sarah took Hagar the Egyptian her servant woman and gave her to her husband Abram as his wife so he went into Hagar and she conceived then she saw that she had conceived so her mistress became contemptible in her sight and Sarah said to Abram my May the violence done to me be upon you I gave my servant woman into your Embrace but she saw that she had conceived so I became contemptible in her sight May Yahweh judge between you and me but Abram said to Sarah behold your servant woman is in your hand do to her what is good in your sight so Sarah Afflicted her and she fled from her presence now the angel of Yahweh found her by a spring of water in the wilderness by the spring on the way to Shore and he said Hagar SAR Sarah’s servant woman where have you come from and where are you going she said I am fleeing from the presence of my mistress Sarah then the angel of Yahweh said to her return to your mistress and humble yourself under her hands moreover the angel of Yahweh said to her I will greatly multiply your seeds so that they will be too many to be counted and the angel of Yahweh said to her further behold you are with child and you will bear a son and you shall call his name Ishmael because Yahweh has heard your Affliction and he will be a wild donkey of a man and his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand will be against him and he will dwell in in the face of all his brothers then she called the name of Yahweh who spoke to her you are a God who sees for she said have I even remained alive here after seeing him therefore the well was called beer laroy behold it is between Kadesh and bared so Hagar bore Abram a son and Abram called the name of his son whom Hagar bore Ishmael now Abram was 86 years old when Hagar bore ishmail to him okay let’s walk through this how long had Abram been in Canaan got to go a little bit to the broader context to find this out actually no you don’t it’s right there verse three yeah 10 years been 10 years in Canaan how old were Abram and Sarah at this point this is where you kind of have to go to the broader context so let me unpack it for you um we see um at the end that he was 86 right when Hagar bore ishmail to him um and so uh so in the earlier part of the narra narrative you look at Abra you kind of put it together that Abram left haran at 75 that’s in uh 12:4 and Sarah was 10 years younger than him so at this point before um this is before ishmail was born when he was conceived Abraham was 855 and Sarah was 75 so you think about this do you remember how old um Abraham and Sarah were when Isaac was born 190 right this is so this is still a little ways off 15 years later so it’s interesting you see these these two sons they’re 15 years apart I think it’s important to think about that as as a family Dynamic I don’t have kids that far apart I think oldest the youngest is well yeah 16 years right so maybe I do I’m old I don’t remember these things but that but that but that’s a big gap right uh they’re kind of really not not really growing up together in one sense experiencing some of the same things well what was Sarah’s proposition for providing Abram a child what was her suggestion and was it a good suggestion comments on that Glenda I want to go back we know that God was dealing all the time with with Abraham now in chapter 16 we see that Sarah bring up a suggestion and he jumped right on the suggestion he did right and then after she she turned on him and then he turned and tell her do what they made what you want to do so what what was the why did he jump at that suggestion so quickly I think the title of the uh chapter gives us that answer Abram’s impatience right we’re going to unpack this a little bit but but think about any other comments on that why would you say Abram was eager to jump on that yeah want to go ahead I I wasn’t going to answer that question I was going to answer your original question about Sarah she says uh maybe I can build a house yeah um when she used that expression says I can build a house when we know yeah it is God that is going to be building the house and that’s a that’s a theme throughout right God had made a promise the question is can we trust God or not here’s what’s so interesting Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness sometimes it seems like he doesn’t really believe God that’s interesting want to we’re going to want to unpack that a little bit so hang on for that um verse two go into my servant woman a common practice of the day not God certainly not God’s design for marriage that does not sound beautiful like we understand marriage to be not just go into her that’s not yeah that’s not it that’s not it it’s kind of actually kind of crude crude language have intercourse with her and bear a child she would be his wife but you can see how far that is from God’s design can’t you and how did Abram respond you mentioned it Glenda um yeah he he just agreed with her y let’s just let’s just do that that sounds that sounds good that sounds like that might accelerate God God’s taking too long uh this might accelerate things right and I’m just going to pause here this is actually part of our application anybody ever do anything like that in their own life and and how does it generally work out not good not good this whole idea of waiting on the Lord is huge I think it’s one of the hardest things about being a Believer because the scriptures say that the days of our lives are 70 80 years if we’re fortunate right so teach us to number our days that we might present to you a heart of wisdom redeem the time it says in Ephesians and yet with such little time we’re told to wait to me that is one of the hardest exercises of Faith there is I’m impatient and I’m I’m sure I’m not the only one here so he listened to the voice of his wife agreeing said yeah that sounds like a good plan let’s do that um have we seen this kind of thing before in the scriptures even in Genesis Adam yeah he listened to the voice of his wife now let me be really clear about this there are times when listen when a man to listen to his voice of of his wife it’s a sinful thing if it’s against the will of God but it’s a very good thing if it is towards the will of God I know it’s very important for me personally to listen to the voice of Betty I’ll just say a couple words about this uh Betty’s level of Faith compared to mine it’s it’s embarrassing it’s embarrassing right um and so um don’t read this as uh diminishing women at all this was just a situation where um Sarah had a bad idea and Abraham deferring to that bad idea was a bad idea right yeah did Sarah’s plan succeed what are your thoughts on that she got a son so and it was Abram’s son so yes no it would seem to it would seem to have let’s unfold this a little bit a child was conceived notice the phrasing that Sarah said I will obtain a child to her did she really wasn’t her child she didn’t really obtain a child right and and this is not to diminish uh the beautiful opportunities that we have for adoption in today’s culture that that’s a wonderful thing you know my sister has three adopted children um I was talking to some good friends yesterday they’ve got two adopted children they are they are very much their children in that sense and and God and His graciousness talks about salvation both in terms of New Birth and adoption so both of them are beautiful so I’m not diminishing that but in this case it went against the promise that God had given Abraham and so what happened to the relationship between the two women after conception confusion confusion you said yeah contempt what’s the word that’s used contempt um contemptible that’s strong language right angry angry yeah yeah and we know from the scriptures yeah yeah a anger that shows itself in relationships yeah I could say a lot about that that’s been a big battle for me but yeah and as the scriptures say the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God Ian Judy’s got something back there Sarah referred to it as violence M that’s interesting yeah I was I I noticed that as well the violence that you have done to me uh let’s see where is that verse n thank you the angel of Yahweh said to her return to your mistress and humble yourself under hands more fair no where are we that’s not it five five thank you may the violence done to me be upon you and I’m a little confused by that to be honest I I don’t necessarily see violence there right it’s it’s certainly um a disrespect uh but keep in mind it was her idea so that’s really interesting you know um so we see here in both those verses Hagar became contemptible to Sarah and Sarah became contemptible to her to Hagar so there was this Strife right this is this is not working out well when you think about God’s design for the family this is not it on several levels right so whom did Sarah excuse me blame for the situation Abraham now let’s let’s think about this just for a minute was that a legitimate accusation excuse me okay how so how was it legitimate well if he was a righteous man he would have said no we can’t do that yeah that’s right I I think so um even though it was her idea she blamed Abram who in God’s design is the head of the household deferring him deferring to his wife’s desires is not necessarily serving her well right this this this is a whole topic on marriage right where God calls us husbands to love our wives as Christ loves the church right and I and I listen you know to my wife’s desires and we seek the Lord together that doesn’t mean that a husband is to always to defer to the wishes of her wife of his wife or vice versa if they’re against the Lord right it’s a submission to the Lord that one was for free we could talk a lot more about that um and how did Abram respond we mentioned it he deferred to the wishes of his wife do to her what is good in your sight and that that just seems kind of passive in a sense right he he just like look you guys work it out I don’t want to deal with this right um and I I think you know I’ll just say it I I think God calls uh calls more calls us husbands to more more than that right uh more than that that that is not that’s not godly leadership right okay how are we doing on time let’s fly through this what names or attributes of God do we learn In this passage so I’ll just unpack this um these next few questions and we’ll get to application Elroy you are the God who sees that’s wonderful even though Sarah had rejected Hagar God had not God saw and he had compassion right and the the well that was there was named after his well The Well of the living one who sees me and one of the things we see as a principle in the scriptures is that God sees and has compassion on The Afflicted regardless of who they are that’s the nature of God to do that and I think that’s just so interesting even though Hagar legitimately had a lesser role in the in the history of Salvation um God saw and God even had a plan for her and her family um wonderful and then we see hopefully you’re seeing this as this unfolds God’s plan for salvation wasn’t just for Israel that’s where it started but it expands to the Nations right Hagar was an Egyptian right and so um there’s a lot that could be said here but I’ll I’ll move on what did the son communicate to Hagar this is the Angel of the Lord we’ve talked about this before in this case it’s a theophany it’s a it’s an appearance of Jesus uh in the Old Testament and she acknowledged that um she called the name of Yahweh who spoke to her in verse 13 she understood that it was God who had spoken to her and had such compassion on her instructed her to return and submit to Sarah uh and that he would multiply her descendants and so God and His Mercy spoke to Hagar as well as Sarah okay how would you contrast God’s behavior and man’s in this narrative and we’ve talked about this right God is a promis making and a promis keeping in God man here is is we see unbelief we see blame shifting as things um unfold we see deception right very sharp sharp contrast knowing that the Covenant in many cases has to be unil unilateral God is the only one capable and worthy of carrying it out what action and this is an example what action had Abram previously taken that demonstrated his lack of faith in God’s promise of an air and we saw that um actually we uh this when he told Pharaoh that Sarah was his sister and not his wife that too did not work out well and it’s interesting here we see the growth of Abram’s Faith uh he was fearing that he would be killed now look with me at if you would just turn briefly to Romans chapter 4 starting in verse 20 and I think we’ve established that Abram’s Faith at this point was not all that it should be but it grew and this is important that just just hit me this past week as I Was preparing Romans 4 starting at verse 20 yet with respect to the promise of God he did not waver in unbelief but grew strong in faith giving glory to God being fully assured that what God had promised he was able also to do it’s a curious verse to me because it does seem like Abram wavered in faith doesn’t it but he grew strong in faith to the point that if you see in um Genesis 22 explained in Hebrews 11:19 when he went to sacrifice Isaac we’re going to get there in this series God said sacrifice your son your only son and he went up and he said to the men we’re going to go up and we’ll be back we’ll be back um Isaac asked where’s the sacrifice what did Abram say God will provide for himself a sacrifice Hebrews 11:19 I’ll just read it let’s just go there real quick this this this this tells you how much Abram’s Faith had grown this is super encouraging anyone here feel weak in faith today maybe stronger than you were yesterday but not as strong as you wanted to be God understands that he gives us examples of that Hebrews 11: 19 he considered that God is able to raise people even from the dead from which figuratively speaking he also received them back that was his mindset when he want to sacrifice Isaac even if I kill him God can raise him back right that’s how much that that’s a level of faith that In this passage he didn’t have yet is that encouraging may God may God grow our faith in such a way what part of God’s created order did Abram violate in trying to bring an heir into the world through Hagar I think we’ve established this marriage between one man and one woman um choosing to follow culturally accepted practices in set of God’s Design This plays itself out right I right today right what do we do I it’s so interesting um I think it’s important to defend marriage but when you go to a wedding that is Christ centered and gospel centered my son just got married back in um um December 28th and you just sit there and you watch this and you hear the gospel and you see it on display and it just the sheer beauty of it just makes everything else look so ugly right and um and I think that’s what we see here a deviation from that is an ugly thing that creates nothing but but Strife so a couple things by way of interpretation I thought we were doing good on time we’re not so I’m going to speed it up a little bit Abram allowed Sarah to do whatever she wanted after Hagar conceived what consequences might have happened had God not intervened and told Hagar to return well he would have lost he would have lost them right he would have the son he believed was the promised air may have been lost in Egypt without gods intervention we see God’s gracious gracious Choice acting in action here God preserving this family in some fashion how would you explain how Abram went wrong in not waiting for God’s timing Abram and Sarah sought to bring about God’s plan on their own timing and by their own methods sound familiar rather than waiting on God’s timing and trusting him to bring about these promises God fulfilling his promises I hope we can see is much better than trying to make things happen right amen I see some of you are taking pictures of the slides we’re going to send the slides out too so um you’ll have those so let’s let’s interact a little bit we got about 10 minutes I think um on application this this to me is the question and I’d love to hear from some of you on this so you can go over to Magda here she’s raising her hand what happens when you take matters into your own hands I was just thinking that Abram and Sarah’s unbelief precipitated multigenerational hate and violence to this day yeah I yeah I’m not an expert in this area but you could see the seeds of what’s happening in the Middle East back then sometimes I say to myself boy if these folks could could have just gotten along right yeah many many deaths in history that’s right Magna yeah what else Glenda just on what Magus said um because you see that because of the The Strife that is now going on in the Middle East they saying we are Abraham’s firstborn right ishmail so that’s down to now as Magda said The Strife is still going on because they took matters into their own hand way back and the fruit is now being exposed every year yeah if you read the Quran on this narrative it it’s kind of tracks right with it and then it takes a hard left it’s like wait a minute that’s not what happened yeah that’s right that’s right other examples of what happens when we take matters into our own hands brother yeah uh what I wanted to say if we go back to uh the beginning of Genesis and we give we’re given a depiction of you know how God created man and an important part of that story is that it says God planted a garden um East of Eden and he placed man in the garden um you mentioned the something about what how can we things about God’s character um unfortunately for us today in America we don’t understand what it means to live in an we don’t understand what it means to be a a a oh my good aarian yes Society the idea an great in society where what we depend on we actually labor for the food that we’re going to eat but there’s something about plants When You observe how they grow that teaches us something about God because we use the word impatience yeah not understanding time how God operates in time we become impatient I think that’s what gets us in trouble yeah you know if we want something we’re not willing to wait the example Christmas kids want to know what their I’m not a Christmas person but you know um they want to know what their presence are before the day comes there they kind of annoy their parents let me say a couple words about that because um I think what we’re saying is is faith means believing that God is who he says he is and will do what he says he will do right that’s what it comes down to with the farmer the scriptures say that the farmer tills tills a soy plants a seed but what does it say it says how it grows he himself does not know right because God does it there’s a level of hard work but trust in that right and that’s what life is like how it happens you know I I somebody shared this phrase with me as and go back to the notes on trusting God we went into this in great detail right we’ve got to trust him I’ll let I’ll just let that land and we’ll just give in for the sake of time we’ll go through a couple of these other ones what truth in the scriptures we looked at today has helped you to see God’s grace in the account of Abraham maybe I’ll let one of one or two of you answer that what truth today has helped you to see God’s grace I can move to go ahead Steve all Journey what’s that we’re all on a journey we are all on a journey and hopefully grow growing in faith don’t we see God’s immense patience with us right incredible and his graciousness to us yeah yeah not that we want to justify failure or seek failure but to know as as as Paul said to Timothy when we are faithless he is faithful Our Lives depend upon that amen hey Mark yeah yeah even though they were unbelieving and Unfaithful um they did God didn’t disqualify them from what he had planned for he didn’t talk about Grace yeah you talk about Grace and you see that to this day is is Israel faithful to God as a as a nation as a as a people know but he still has a plan for them which is amazing why does this country exist because of what we’ve read here we’re reading here today that’s why this the country exists it’s amazing I’ll just walk through these real quickly how does knowing that God is unchanging and absolutely faithful give you peace and Assurance of your own salvation Philippians 1:66 says that he who began a good work will bring it to completion right he saved us he is sanctifying us he will glorify us he will do it right he will do it we cannot maintain our own salvation we participate in it in it but its final outcome we we participate in it in terms of sanctification submitting ourselves to his work which is really what faith is Faith at its core um we’ve been going through Hebrews right faith is the Assurance of things hoped for the conviction of things not seen by it the men of old gained approval Hebrews 11:1 Faith at its core is complete trust and utter Reliance Faith doesn’t accomplish anything it’s the object of the faith that accomplishes the question for us is are we fully surrendered to fully trusting in God I I’ll just I’ll just leave the rest for the slides look with me at Jeremiah 17 I think God will have us end with this god require both requires and grants us Faith he requires our complete trust and what I mean by that is is you you can’t trust at the at your core you can’t trust in two things at the same time I remember when I first started meditating on this passage it really convicted me starting at verse 5 Jeremiah 17:5 cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength and whose heart turns away from Yahweh stop when we trust in human strength our hearts are turning away from him do you get that yeah so I would challenge today at your core in your decisions and how you live your life what are you trusting in so whose heart turns away from Yahweh he will be like a juniper in the desert and will not see when Prosperity comes but will dwell in Stony waste in the wilderness a land of salt which is not inhabited ah but blessed is the man who trusts in Yahweh and whose trust is Yahweh you get that it’s not a it’s he is our trust that’s something very strong and what’s the result he will be like a tree planted by the water that sends forth its roots by a stream and will not fear when the heat comes but its leaves will be green and it will not be anxious in a year of drought nor for frin from yielding fruit and we see this in the life of Abraham all the way through history to our lives today the extent to which we trust him is the extent to which we will be fruitful so let me end with that and let’s pray father God uh we see your mercy your your grace your your great patience with us as we waver in unbelief um as the disciples prayed I believe Lord help my unbelief and so you know what’s in our hearts father um I pray that these promises um not just on a page but the realities of these events would bolster our faith things that have occurred in Millennia past um impact us today and have have been predicted from eternity P are being carried out in the present and will be completed in eternity future father may we ride the wave of your Providence fully submit to your plans um humbly reflect your character and Lead many to righteousness in Jesus name amen

  • Lesson 3: Sodom and Gomorrah

    Lesson 3: Sodom and Gomorrah

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    welcome to Sunday school um so for the past two weeks we’ve been looking at this new series Patriarchs of the promise and this is our third lesson of the series and today we’ll be looking at Sodom and gomorra so I’m excited to be teaching today’s lesson and for those who don’t know me my name is Ian and maybe just to start right so when I mentioned the two cities of Sodom and gomorra what is one the first thing that comes to your mind when someone talks about these two cities death yeah wickedness anything else CH salt yeah pillow of salt right so all these things are like connected to judgment by God for sin right and in fact Sodom and gomorra are referen multiple times throughout the Bible uh both in the New Testament and Old Testament so here I included two verses one from the book of Isaiah um so this is from the Old Testament and one verse from the go from the Gospel of Luke that’s from the New Testament but the point is that this are two Infamous cities judged for their wickedness and the Bible referenced them multiple times for that reason right and uh This was meant for the instruction of people from Israel but the passages are also relevant for us as well so let’s pay attention to uh both Genesis 18 and 19 in uh today’s study and before we begin let me pray for us father thank you for your word thank you for um the wisdom that’s found in your word help us to understand more about who you are your character your Justice your mercy your faithfulness as we dive into your word Lord we give us uh illumination through your spirit to understand it correctly and apply it in our own lives so I pray all this in Christ’s name amen all right so uh this will be the outline of today’s lesson first I’ll give some introduction to today’s lesson some background that might be helpful as we look at the two passages today and then I’ll move on to look at the first passage of the day which is Genesis 18: 1-33 uh so there are many events that happen in uh chapter 18 but one main thing that happened was when Abraham pleaded for Sodom so God was intending to destroy Sodom and because his nephew slot was reiding in Sodom Abra Abraham was pleading to God to spare Sodom for uh his sake and then we’ll look at Genesis 19 as well and here we see the account of the angel sent by God to rescue Lord from uh Sodom that was about to be destroyed so when looking at these two passages we hope to follow the inductive Bible study method that was uh done in the previous two lessons as well so we look at some observations and then do interpretation followed by application so first let’s start with the introduction so let’s try to connect what we’re going to look at today with uh what we saw previously so in the past two lessons we saw the life of Abraham and in last week’s lesson hos walked us through the relationship that Abraham had with lot right so we saw how Abraham rescued lot from the Kings when they took him captive and in last week’s lesson we saw how um there was this conflict between the Hersman of Abraham and the Hersman of lot right so they they had hers both in the same land and the land could not sustain both their herds so in order to resolve this conflict what Abraham did was to offer lot The Pick of the territory and as a result lot chose the fertile Valley and travel east towards Sodom whereas Abraham headed west towards Canaan and settled near the land um where there were there were The Oaks of mamre who was an ally of Abraham so here we see Sodom the city of Sodom being referenced and today we will look um more into this particular City and even back then in Genesis 14 the city of Sodom was referred to as a city of wickedness so it was known that the people there practice wickedness and in today’s lesson we’ll see more about um the wickedness that was uh happening there and one other thing is that today’s lesson is slightly out of chronology so last week we ended in Genesis 14 whereas now we’ll be starting off in Genesis 18 and the point is that we want to keep our focus on the relationship between lot and Abraham and yes Abraham not Abram so last week we were talking about this character known as Abram and here in this week’s lesson there is a name change so the character is now referred to as Abraham and this will be discussed in next week’s lesson so in an earlier chapter God changed the name of Abraham to Abraham so just to make it clear whenever we’re talking about Abraham in this week’s lesson we are talking about the same character Abram so a little bit of geography uh we know that Sodom is located somewhere around the region of the Dead Sea so uh in this picture that I have on the on the right the white region is where the Dead Sea is located right and um one interesting question that one could ask is is there evidence for the this historical event and the reason why I asked this question is not to say we that we need external evidence to validate the Bible we do we do not right the Bible is God’s word inspired by the holy spirit so whatever it says is true and we can believe it but it would be interesting to see if there is external evidence that corroborates with what we see in the pages of scripture and so one fun fact is that between the years of 1973 and 19 79 two archaeologist located the remains of five cities in the southeast of the Dead Sea so uh the bottom right of that page right and so the ruins and and the debris of these cities seem to be consistent with what we expect from uh the five cities in Genesis 14 so I guess they are speculating if these could be the five cities of the valley that we read about last week in um gen 14 and more specifically I guess we can ask the question if Sodom has been found so this Infamous City and um the current um understanding from based on archaeology archaeological findings is that there are two competing candidates one on the Northeast region of the Dead Sea and one on the Southeast so these are the two points circled in red on on this map so this is just interesting that there is uh some evidence that corroborates with what we find in in scripture and if we are challenged for what we believe in our faith uh we can look at what people are finding now in with modern science and say that yeah the the Bible can be corroborated and we can have faith in what is mentioned in in scripture okay so that’s just a fun fact but so um when studying scripture um God’s character is often emphasized right and I think in this particular passage um it’s the justice of God being emphasized in our study today and particularly because of how God treats sin his um hatred of sin and his punishment of sin but before we can understand and see the justice of God being played out in our passage today we have to first have a definition of what Justice is right so uh does anyone have an understanding of what Justice is so if someone ask you what is Justice what would you say yeah the punishment of okay so there has be some sort of crime being committed and there’s a corresponding punishment but if I ask you about what perfect Justice is what would you say oh so God is The Giver of right and wrong he is the creator of right and wrong uh the Arbiter of right and wrong so uh he is the executor of that and he is the only one who can execute perfect justice meaning um the the blessing of of the right and the cursing of the wrong I think um in the Old Testament you see righteousness and Justice as practically synonymous so Justice would be the expression of God’s righteousness right GLA and you know um if you ask for really perfect Justice and God give us perfect Justice all of us will go to hell right but he give us Mercy you know to save us from going to hell yeah thank you Authur do you want to say something yeah I think one thing not to forget about Justice is that God cre treats everyone the same way and that’s one of the problems we have in in our world is that um people are not treated equally um I think one way of thinking of Justice when we talk about treating everyone the same way is that um what was already stated that is in spite of the fact that we all deserve to to um I guess to come under God’s Wrath yet God gives us all the opportunity to escape that wrath through his son so it’s you see that that equality especially when you study uh books like the Leviticus Ah that’s a difficult book to go through but you see God’s justice right thank you brother yeah thank you yeah and you all brought up very good points about uh what Justice is and here I include like a working definition of Justice and Justice is the application of the appropriate punishment for crime and this is what God does right so if there is sin to be punished he treats it as Sin and he punishes punishes it appropriately whether or not the one who committed the sin is punished is a is a different matter so if those who of us who are in Christ Christ takes the sin of uh of of his people and here I say appropriate punishment meaning that um for a crime they not ever punish more than uh the crime um than than than a crime it um requires right so yeah that’s perfect Justice and also in today’s passage there are other attributes of God that are being emphasized such as his faithfulness his Mercy as some of you pointed out uh omniscience omnipotence and just to contrast uh justice with Mercy I have here a definition of what Mercy is right so Mercy is when you deserve punishment for your sin but the punishment is withheld as some of you have brought up right rightly brought up right so we’re going to see how these two um attributes of God are being described and explained to us in today’s passage so with that let’s move on to our first passage of the day from Genesis 18 verse 1-33 so as I said there are many things going on in uh this chapter but the one main thing that we will look at is how Abraham pleads for Sodom so following the inductive Bible study method uh we’ll start off with some observations we have of the text so uh I don’t intend to read every single verse in this chapter but as we go along uh I will flash some relevant verses on the slides so uh keep your Bibles open and just track with me as as we go so uh at the beginning of chapter 18 uh we find that there are three men that appears to Abraham who was uh at the tent right and we see um Abraham extending a tremendous hospit Hospitality to this threee men and and I will read starting at verse one of chapter 18 now the Lord appeared to him by The Oaks of mam while he was sitting by at the tent Door In the Heat of the day when he lifted up his eyes and looked behold three men were standing opposite him and when he saw them he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the Earth and said my Lord if now I have found favor in your sight please do not pass your servant by please let a little water be brought and wash your feet and rest yourself under the tree and I will bring a piece of bread that you may refresh yourselves after that you may go on since you have visited your servant and they said so do as you have said so Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah and said quickly prepare three measures of flour knead it and make bread cakes Abraham also ran to the herd and took a tender and choice cough and gave it to the servant and he hurried to prepare it he took currs and milk and the cough which he has prepared and placed it before them and he was standing by them under the tree as they ate so I’ll stop here for now and see we can see the tremendous Hospitality that Abraham extended to these three men we know that people in that culture were tended to be extremely generous to their visitors because of their semi nomadic culture but even then I think what we see in Abraham’s Behavior went above and beyond what was expected of that culture right this man Abraham was 100 years old at the time right and here in the the the start of this chapter we see that he runs towards his visitors and gives them prepares A Feast for them he offers to wash their feet and gives them water to drink so this was extreme hospitality and is expected and it it’s consistent with someone who knew the Lord right so he had change character which was different from what we’re going to see from the people of Sodom in the next chapter and one interesting thing about these three men is that they were not Mere Men right so one man is identified as the Lord himself or Yahweh and the other two men are angels and let’s look at some relevant passages to basically prove this point so the one of the verses that I listed here is uh Genesis 18:13 um and he says and the Lord said to Abraham why did Sarah love right so one of the men here is is later on referred to as the Lord or Yahweh so God himself appears to Abraham and the other two men are referred to as angels in the first verse of chapter 19 so we’ll go into that in in next passage but these men were not uh Mere Men so um and the next thing we see in this chapter is the a promise being affirmed to Abraham and I shall read that so this is starting at verse 9 then they said to him where is Sarah your wife and he said there in the tent he said I will surely return to you at this time next year and behold Sarah your wife will have a son and Sarah was listening at the T door which was behind him now Abraham and Sarah were all advanc in age Sarah was past childbearing Sarah laughed to herself saying after I have become old shall I have pleasure my Lord being old also and the Lord said to Abraham why did Sarah laugh saying shall I indeed bear a child when I am so old is anything too difficult for the Lord at the appointed time I will return to you at this time next year and Sarah will have a son Sarah denied it however saying I did not laugh for she was afraid and he said no but you did love so God’s promise was affirmed to Abraham at this time but so what exactly was the promise that was affirmed GL he would have a son right and um so the promise is that Abraham will have son previously This Promise was mentioned to Abraham do do we know which chapter was this promise right so like in chapter 15 in chapter 17 This Promise was U given to Abraham right and now it’s reiterated to Abraham and I think this is a a demonstration of God’s faithfulness he knows that we are weak and by his grace he affirms the pro reaffirms the promises that he has given to us right he doesn’t um he often doesn’t give it to us once even though he has no obligation to to do so right he repeats his promise to Abraham and to basically teach Abraham that he’s a God who keeps his word and whatever he says he will do he will bring to pass eventually if you continue reading in the Book of Genesis Abraham has a son so God is true to his word even though Abraham was of age and Sarah was 90 years old Abraham was 100 but God still did the impossible it was an act of God so here I includeed this verse right to uh verse 10 I will surely return to you at this time next year and behold your Sarah your wife will have a son and Sarah was listening at the T door which was behind him so Sarah wasn’t with the men the three men while they were having this conversation with Abraham she was listening by the T door but she overheard this uh conversation that they had and we see next that Sarah laughs about the promise right so she wasn’t with them she laughed about the promise yet the Lord knew right so this is another sign this evidence that this man one of the men who was with them was not any mere man he wasn’t physically present with Sarah yet he knew so this is a demonstration of the omniscience of God all God being all knowing right he knows everything that happens in the universe and therefore like we talked about in our previous study trusting God therefore we can trust him right so God knows all things God can do all things and he would work all things for our good and for his glory so people like us who are in Christ can have full confidence in our God and act accordingly so right so this this is uh Genesis 18 verse vers 1 to 15 but now let’s look at the second Oher you have let me go back to Genesis 18 mhm um when Abraham saw the men coming did he know exactly who they were or it was after a while he recognized oh God put him in who these men were so but when he saw them coming it was just because of hospitality that they thing that he entertained them so well or when he saw them coming coming to him they looked as just be men MH but is it after a while God reveal to him who they were because you said Yahweh um appeared to him so is it at first sight he knew they were or not or after he keep coming to them God reveal that to him no thank you for your question in fact we’re going to cover that when we go into the interpretation stuff so hold that thought for a bit okay so uh yeah before we go into that step let’s look at the rest of chapter 18 so this is from uh vers 16-33 so uh after the meeting of Abraham with these three men they moved toward Sodom with uh Abraham following behind to send them off and we see this interesting uh conversation that the Lord has with the angels and Abraham was with them so um the Lord said shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed for I have chosen him so that he may command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing righteousness and Justice so that the Lord may bring upon Abraham what he has spoken about him and if you look at the text you see that Abraham was with the Lord during this entire time and yet the Lord says spoke in this manner so he clearly did not have the intention to hide what he was going to do from Abraham right in fact in fact in Isaiah 41:8 Abraham is referred to as a friend of God so what God was doing here was to to speak in a way uh that was is instructive for Abraham and also for us right um the Lord does not hide um his will from from his people and in fact we have his perfect Revelation here before us in in written form and yeah so this is one interesting observation and the Lord tells Abraham that he was going to observe Sodom and what he was going to observe was uh due to the outcry of solom Gomorrah that was uh before him so the Lord said in uh from verses 20 21 the outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great and their sin is exceedingly grave I will go down now and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry which has come to me and if not I will know so this is another interesting thing that the Lord uh says and here the outcry I think is very similar to what we see in uh Genesis four with Cain and Abel right so Cain and Abel were uh two brothers and Cain murdered Abel and in chapter 4 we see that the Cry of the blood of Abel was going to the Lord right so this in a similar way there’s a cry due to sin being committed and this uh demands God’s justice so that’s what we see here as well we’ll look at more details as we go into the interpretation step as well so the next uh thing we see is that Abraham pleads with God and I think this is very uh interesting part of uh this chapter and in fact this is the the title that we we have here as well so in I’ll read um so this is um starting at verse 23 Abraham came near and said will you indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked Suppose there are 50 righteous within the city so this is the city of Sodom will you indeed sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the 50 righteous who are in it far be it from you to do such a thing to slay the righteous with the wicked so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike far be it from you shall not the judge of all the Earth deal justly so the Lord said if I find in Sodom 50 righteous within the city then I will spare the whole place on their account and Abraham replied Now Behold I have ventured to speak to the Lord although I am but dust and Ashes suppose the 50 righteous are lacking five will you destroy the whole city because of five and he said I will not destroy the city if I find 45 there he spoke to him again and said suppose 40 are found there and he said I will not do it on account of 40 and then he said oh may the Lord not be angry and I shall speak suppose 30 are found there and he said I will not do it if I find 30 there and he said behold I have ventured to speak to the Lord suppose 20 are found there and he said I will not destroy it on account of 20 then he said oh may the Lord not be angry and I shall speak only this one suppose 10 are found there and he said I will not destroy it on account of 10 so we see this interesting plee that that Abraham had with with the Lord so he went from which you spare the city for for 50 righteous people and the Lord say yes I would spare it if there are if I can find 50 righteous in Sodom and Abraham keeps going so here I have the verse where he asks if the Lord will spare the city for 20 righteous but the Abraham goes as low as 10 and the Lord say I will spare the city for 10 right so we here here here we see the perfect justice of of God being displayed right the Lord is not someone who destroys the righteous he will not destroy the righteous on behalf together the wicked and this is exactly what Abraham knew we will look more about this in the next slide as well so here you see that Abraham’s petition to the Lord was do this on account of your character right so will you slay the righteous together of the wicked because Abraham knew that the lot would not right he knew the character of God and here is the famous uh statement shall not the judge of all the Earth deal justly and it’s a rhetorical question right because Abraham knew the answer and the the answer is that the Lord will right so this is um Genesis Chapter 18 and we’ve made some interesting observations but I want to pause you at this moment to see if you have any observations that are not listed here on the slide yeah Glenda okay who do you think that the plead Abraham was really pleading for right so uh I think definitely um he knew that lot was residing in in the in the city right so he was pleading for the city of Sodom but mostly because he knew that someone he loved was was there yeah sh cherl so I think that’s an interesting a good question because I mean he could easily have said would you please just spare lot and my family but he didn’t right and I think it’s a good example of um how righteousness um pres not preserves wickedness but righteousness is light and you know it even talks about in uh 1 Corinthians 7 where a uh in a marriage a Godly wife makes her family um Sanctified and and so I just find it like here’s Abraham acting as an intercessor for sinful people it wasn’t just just the ones I love you’re right definitely thank you um a yeah um because we’re because we’re talking about Justice um and we’re talking about Sodom and gomorra this is one area that I always have the view sham on a lot of P PS because they don’t help people to truly understand what’s Happening Here If we go back a few pages and those few pages may end up being 10 15 20 years we have to remember that Abraham rescues lot when um the same time we know that there were several kings that um went against Sodom and took all the captives of of Sodom and ABR Abram at that time he rescues lot and um so all the all the property whatever was taken from Sodom was brought back um I always Tau that that’s an indication that before God passed judgment on Sodom and gomorra he showed the mercy at that point by having that intervention where the um um the the armies overtook them when Abraham delivered lot um God was giving Sodom another chance and then it’s interesting that this time even though Abraham intervened Sodom could not be saved right yeah thank you yeah I think we have one time for one more question yeah one more comment one more um as much as Abram Abraham is interceding for lot and for the people of Sodom I see an aspect of beautiful praise and worship because Abram Abraham is really uh making rhetorical statements or asking rhetorical questions that God will not slay the just with the wicked he knows who God is he knows his truth right yeah thank you right so the first question that glender asked as well right did Abraham know the true identities of this man so what would you say anyone oh I I think the hello oh yeah I I think the verse that reveals Abraham’s posture is that we read um when Abraham saw them he didn’t an interesting thing he bowed down and um even though we know there were two angels the Lord was with them anytime a human being encounters an angel if they show that kind of posture they immediately um correct them because they know only God deserves that type of gesture yeah yeah just good observation I I think Abraham eventually knew that it was a lot that he was talking to especially with the uh reaffirmation of the promise because clearly only the LW knew about the promise that he made with Abraham besides those who were in Abraham’s household right but I don’t think there is a clear indication that uh from the very start Abraham knew who he was actually talking to he showed extreme respect to his distinguished guests and show extreme Hospitality as well but I don’t think there is a clear indication that he necessarily knew that it was God himself that he was speaking to but eventually I would say so because uh the promise that the Lord made earlier to Abraham was reaffirmed to him and the way he spoke about Sarah laughing as well it showed the omniscience of God all right so then then the followup question would be we know that Abraham seen the Lord right and in other parts of scripture we see that God saying that you cannot see my face for no man can see me and live right so how did Abraham how could Abraham see God and yet live not as came as a man cuz that theophany you know form of a man so that’s why he could see God unless you know yeah I think in and in like Gospel of John for example gives us a clue as as to what was happening here right so no one has seen God at any time only the begotten God who is in the bosom of the father he has explained him right so this is Jesus Christ who we are talking about and as glender mentioned a theophany or specifically in this case this is what theologians refer to as a christophany right so it’s a preincarnate appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ and yeah he appeared as as a man to Abraham and therefore he could see him we know in other parts of scripture when people see manifestations of God like Moses at a burning bush yeah he he fell down right and when people see Angels they fall down as well but here um the yeah Jesus Christ appeared in his PR incarnate form to Abraham in in this uh part so yeah um next so we saw Sarah laughing when she heard about the she overheard the promise made to Abraham and so why did she laugh about this promise I think it’s it’s pretty obvious right because she clearly did not believe what was said or even reiterated to Abraham she didn’t think that it would come to pass but to be fair to her she was 90 years old right so way past her childbearing age but and I guess this helps us to reflect on our own faith in God as well um do we doubt God for more so-called more ordinary provision like when the Lord promises to uh Supply our daily needs to to ask us to seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things will be added unto you do we doubt even these simple Provisions or when the Lord promises that he works all things for our good and for his glory do we doubt there as well so I think is something that we should we should think about right not necessarily these like extravagant promises but also the simple promises that that he makes to us so the next question that I thought of was um so the lot spoke about how um he was going to investigate the wickedness of Sodom for himself right but yet we know that the Lord is completely omniscient he knows everything so why did the Lord speak in this manner to to Abraham oh Cheryl I think I think that it’s just reaffirming the justice of God and it kind of um accentuates all the times in the Bible when they say if you’re going to bring a charge against someone you know you have to have two or three Witnesses so I just think it’s an affirmation that even God himself holds himself to the same standards yes yeah yeah thank you chery yeah that that’s a very good point right so we know that God is omniscient he he knew the wickedness the accent of the wickedness that was going on in Sodom and Gomorrah yet he spoke in this particular way and cherl pointed out that this was because of God’s character this is the way God acts this is the way he commands the judges to to act right in full integrity and in not out of ignorance not recklessly but carefully and the and the Lord holds himself to the same standard right so um God does not act out of ignorance and he spoke in this way for the benefit of Abraham to so that Abraham understood his character and for our benefit as well right we know that we do not have a God that acts re recklessly but judges perfectly so we can trust how God carries out his dealings with sin in in our world today as well so the next question is uh what does the Lord’s respond to Abraham’s question say about his character right and I think um first we look at how Abraham spoke to God right so he like we mentioned previously he referenced God’s justice he said he asked rhetorical questions um shall not the judge of all the Earth deal justly because he clearly knew who God was and how God would act and this motivated his uh list of pleas and petitions before the Lord and and the way the Lord responded to Abraham saying that I will not I I will spare the city if there were 50 or if there were 10 showed that God will deal with sin appropriately right so he will deal with sin and um so he he’ll punish the wicked but he will spare the righteous and that’s what we see in the next chapter as well as we go into chapter 19 but before we do that I have a couple of application questions we might not have time to answer all all of them but yeah just some things to to take note or to uh keep in mind and uh think about as we go into the next week based on what we’ve learned uh in today’s lesson as well so first is that Abraham and Sarah both laughed at the idea of having a child in their o age despite God’s clear promise to them so when we think about this um how does knowing that God was faithful to This Promise So eventually Abraham and Sarah had a son Isaac right how does this encourage you in your walk before God if you as you recall um God being faithful to you in your own lives this should encourage you in your walk so like take take the time to to think about it to reflect about how you ought to be encouraged in your own walk as you as you remember the great faithfulness of God in scripture and also in your own life and as I asked before uh mark appreciate you asking that one of the things I noticed um there’s a verse in Psalm 118 that talks about um his his promises that he that he says you have made me wait on them and that’s really a beautiful thing because it draws us closer to him in the waiting I’m very impatient I don’t like that I’m sure I’m not alone in that but yet in God’s Providence I think he uses these delayed promises that we might learn more about him and draw close to him thanks Mar yeah so and and something else to consider is that uh Abraham interceded for Sodom as uh glender and sherro man talked about as well asking God to spare it for the sake of the righteous so do we pray in similar ways as well right so um do we pray for others even those you might disagree with or find undeserving do we have that kind of righteousness that that and the kind of heart that Abraham had so yeah it’s something for us to to think about as well because it’s not always easy to pray for people whom we don’t necessarily uh like but we have been shown so much grace ourselves right we have been saved even we we were chosen even before we were we knew we knew God right so I pray that we will have this heart of compassion for those who don’t know Christ and for those who are in Christ who we do not necessarily get along with well we should still think of them as Brothers and Sisters in Christ to care for them and not always be looking for the for our own needs but for the needs of others as well and then the second question is does rightly know God’s knowing God’s character affect the way we pray right so I asked this question because of the way Abraham prayed for Sodom he said will not the judge of all the Earth deal rightly right deal justly so I think the way we if we know right know God’s character correctly biblically so like for example if we know that he works all things for our good and for his glory then we can play pray with full confidence knowing that whatever outcome that the Lord brings to pass is going to conform us to the image of Christ right and that’s the the main thing that we need in in our Liv to be conformed to Christ likeness so this is like one example but there are many other things that you can you can think about where knowing God’s character biblically and and based on the truth that is mentioned in Scripture it should really shape the way we pray the the things we pray about and also the manner in which we we pray all right so uh we have like about 15 more minutes but uh let’s quickly move on to the next passage to Genesis 19 so here we read about the account where uh the Angels move into the city of Sodom to rescue lot from Sodom that was about to be destroyed so the first thing that we see is the two men who were previously with Abraham appearing before lot so that’s the the start of uh chapter 19 so here um it says now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening as the Lord as lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom when lot saw them he rose to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground and so here is it’s interesting to see lot sitting at the at the Gate of Sodom because uh some commentators say that uh the gate is serves as the administrative and judicial City uh center of the city so in previous chapters in Genesis we see that lot was moving towards Sodom and then he pitched his hand close to Sodom now his residing in Sodom and not only that there is perhaps he might be uh he might even have um prominent role within Sodom in um it like as administrator or something of the sort right so we see the slow progression of um lot in his uh dealings with Sodom and he seemed to be becoming a lot more comfortable living in Sodom despite the tremendous wickedness that was going on right there so this is something that was uh interesting to observe and similar to Abraham uh lot shows um extreme Hospitality to his visitors these two angels and he could also ask the question of whether he knew that they were angels we will look at that later and he said now behold my lords please turn aside to your servant’s house and spend the night and wash your feet that then you may rise early and go on your way they said however no we shall spend the night in the Square yet he urged them strongly so they turned aside to him and entered his house and he prepared A Feast for them and Bak un 11av bread and they ate so here we see that Lord prepares A Feast for them he insisted that they stayed in his house and not in the Square even though the Angels first wanted to to stay in the Square he probably knew of the extreme wickedness of Sodom at this point in time and therefore it wasn’t safe for the visitors to be in the Square but regardless he was extremely hospitable to his guest and the next thing that unfolded in this in this passage is that the men of Sodom and they really a mob right they surrounded L’s house as uh shown in this verse here right so before they lay down and they referring to the angels the men of the city of Sodom surrounded the house both young and old all the people from every quarter so this is Extreme right so this shows the extent of the depravity all the people from every quarter were surrounding this one particular house that was in the city and they were making uh sinful demands right so if you keep on reading is and they called to Lord and said to him where are the men that came to you tonight bring them out to us so that we may have relations to them and if you know this relations refer to homosexual relation between men right so this was a clear evidence of the extreme depravity sinfulness that was part of the outcry that was rising to the Lord and so instead of surrendering his guest to the man who was out outside the door what lot did was to offer his daughters instead so this was uh very uh troubling um offer that lot presented in our read Now Behold I have two daughters that have not had relations with men please let me bring them out to you and do to them whatever you like only do nothing to this man in as much as they have come under the shelter of my roof so Lord was was unwilling to let uh the man defile the visitors that was in his house but he was making a counter offer that was sinful as well so there seem to be some sort of um dis distinguishing of sins in L’s mind for whatever reason uh and yeah we will we talk more about this as well and the next thing that happens is that the angels protect lot and his household from this mob that was outside the house and also with from the uh eventual destruction of Sodom so here um in verses 10 and 11 it says but the men reached out their hands and brought lot into the house with them and shut the door they struck the men who were at the doorway with of the house with blindness both small and great so that they weared themselves trying to find the door here’s very interesting that um the angels with their Supernatural strength brought lot back into the house because lot was outside the house with this mob and they blinded the man who was who at the door but even in their blindness this man was still still trying to grope for the door so this is really really shows the extreme um desperation to to commit these uh despicable acts and uh next we see um how the Angels protected lot and his household as they were escaping from the city of Sodom before his destruction so but he hesitated he being lot uh so the man seized his hand and the Hand of his wife and the Hand of his two daughters for the compassion of the Lord was upon him and they brought him out and put him outside the city so here we see that the initiative was taken on beh uh on behalf of L and his household lot hesitated he didn’t immediately leave the city but the Angels basically dragged him and his household out of the city before the City was destroyed and next thing was uh Sodom and gomorra destroyed by God because of their sin the sun had risen over the earth when lot came to zoah then the Lord reigned on Sodom and Gomorrah Brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven and he overthrew the cities and all the valley and all the inhabitants of the city and what grew on the ground so we here we read of a complete obliteration of these Wicked cities but uh Lord Lord and his household and L his wife and his and his two daughters were able to escape from from the city but and so so this was not the end right so after L and his wife and his two daughters left the city Lot’s wife is turned into a pillar of salt right so here we read that his wife who was now outside the city uh looked back at the city of Sodom and she became a pillar of salt you so these are some observations that we see from uh chapter 19 so let’s uh move into interpretation did not know that the two men who were visiting him were angels I think uh similar to Abraham I don’t think that he immediately knew that these were Angels but still at Abraham he treated them as distinguished guests right with extreme Hospitality uh Arthur yeah what I was going to say that if you go back to chapter 18 when Abraham sees the men and um when I mentioned that he bowed down to the ground right after he does that notice that um it’s singular he says he um he said to them he says my Lord MH so even though there were three men he says my Lord but in chapter 19 when lot bows down um before the two men he doesn’t he says my lords and then if you have the King James if you know the King James versions they capitalized the L in chapter 18 and they use a small letter so that may be a bias but but um we can’t forget that um we’re told in Hebrews that um about entertaining strangers that some may be Angels right it’s interesting that I believe the writer was Paul but people argue over that um that in Hebrews where the writer tells us about when we entertain strangers that some unawares entertain Angels so that’s something to think about right yeah thank you Steve Jude says in Jude it says that the people of Sodom went after quote strange flesh MH yeah so so that’s a hard question to answer mhm because that obviously there’s some something that was strange about them right so um it I I I I would take a neutral position no justly right okay oh eron um I guess like the the fact that he kind of tries to take matters into his own hands and say like no here’s here’s my daughters instead like I feel like if he knew that they were angels of the Lord then I don’t I don’t know if he would have had that same response I don’t know yeah know interesting observations thank you um but I think for the sake of time let’s keep going um so one other thing is um the men of Sodom while they were gathering out Gathering outside L’s house said that Lord was acting as a judge right so what does this suggest about lot’s character so he knew something was different about L but glender I I think I think I think lot was sort of compromising then saw something good about him but then not coming out of Sodom he move it moved closer and he was classed as a judge you know because judges sit at the gate so I don’t think his his life was well if you go back to in in the New Testament we say he was a righteous man so I don’t know exactly what was his character there why these men had him as a judge yeah but yet still they’re going to punish him because he’s not allowing them to get to the angels right right yeah yeah thanks slender right so yeah as you pointed out in the New Testament lot was referred to as as a righteous man right so here I I included a verse from second Peter um and yeah so and and the way the man were referring to him as acting as a judge was basically mockery right and but this also probably suggests that he had some form of Confrontation or pointed out the sin in the past but yet his life was not uh completely consistent with the the things that he was he was saying right so like we we’re going to look at how he offered his daughters to the man instead of allowing the man to defile his visitors so this was clearly something that was not a righteous act right um and we also know that the people of Sodom did not take lot very seriously uh for example the son-in-laws of of of lot that we that we read about right so basically when lot was asked to call his household out of Sodom lot went out and spoke to his son-in-laws who were to marry his daughters and said up get out of this place for the Lord would destroy the city but he appeared to his son-in-laws to be Justin just merely joking about the impending destruction of Sodom so I think when thinking about this we should consider our own testimony to people around us uh who may not know Christ are we serious about Sin such that they understand the severity of sin and the impending Judgment of God for sin we may think that we live uh Christian lives around unbelievers but we should also consider and examine our own life to see if uh people take the lot seriously on account of the testimony that that we have uh right so uh why did Lord protect why did the angels protect Lord and his family uh so here we see that reference back to chapter 18 right so God will not slay the righteous together with the wicked and we saw from the New Testament that L was referred to as a righteous man yet we know that the righteousness is not from himself right it’s not because of the right uh that lot was a perfect person we see that he was just about to offer his daughters to this mob right and you see in um verse 16 that the compassion of the Lord was upon him so Lord was someone who was chosen by God and God himself chose to rescue Lord not in the Merit of of L but because of the compassion of God so here we see the mercy of God on display right so it’s not because of what we’ve ever done not we what what what we do not about our our skills the things that we’ve accomplished in life but it’s all on the basis of God’s mercy that we as Christians are Sav and the reason why Lord was Sav in in this uh instance as well uh and the last question is why did Lot’s wife turned into a pillar of salord so we know that she looked back and turned into a pillar of sord but is there more to it is it just simply the the act of looking back that turn her into a pillar of salt glender I think they said that she she they said that she looked back MH but and then too sometimes she’s thinking about what am I missing there what I had where am I going what I’m going to get but we have to go with the Bible say she looked back she looked back yeah yeah so she received explicit command from from God not to look behind so if you look at this verse do not look behind you right so it was clear that uh the God turned her into a pillar of salt because she disobeyed simply disobeyed God’s command but we also can think about um why she might have looked back we could this is not explicitly mentioned in scripture yet the act of turning back might suggest that she had some sort of attachment to the city of Sodom she didn’t necessarily want to escape she had some uh reason why she wanted to maybe even turn back to the S to Sodom that was being destroyed yeah right right so now let’s look at some application so uh it’s clear in Scripture that uh homosexuality is a sin so this is one of the sins that is clearly brought up in In this passage chapter 19 and this is a topic that can spark passions in our culture today right so if you were sharing a gospel the gospel with someone who claims to be homosexual how can you use 1 Corinthians 6 9-11 to to minimize some of the strong emotional responses that come with this is issue and here I’m not saying that we should always seek to minimize the the negative responses that we get from people because we know the gospel is an offense to to people who do not know God people who are enemies of God yet we should try to communicate these things uh in a Biblical way so here we I include the the verses on on the slide so or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God do not be deceived neither fornicators nor idolators nor adulterers nor Infinate nor homosexuals nor thieves nor the Covetous nor drunkers nor revilers nor swindlers who inherit the kingdom of God such were some of you but you washed but you were Sanctified you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the spirit of our God so how would you um answer this question uh Mike uh simply by saying all men have sin right um homosexuality is one of many sins and it’s always a conversation between me and the other person I’m not lifting myself up against that person I’m saying hey I’m just like you and it’s only by the grace of God that he saved me yeah thanks all these conversations are meant to be have had in love right thank you I have a question um and uh one of the things that I’ve seen in recent years um among some professing Christians is that the condemnation was not for homosexuality but for a lack of hospitality I know to us that sounds silly to be quite honest but um this is something that’s gained traction among to Mike’s Point um I think it’s hard for parent parents and friends to to have these conversations with their homosexual friends in love um and so the response of some professing Christians is to say well the Bible doesn’t really say that and they use this passage not necessarily the First Corinthians one but the Sodom gomorah one to justify that yeah and I don’t want to derail you but what would you say to that yeah right so I mean if if if they Genesis 19 for themselves I don’t think there’s like a way around the fact that homosexuality is pointed out clearly as a sin right so um yeah I I don’t think there’s a way around it if you just read the text of scripture oh yeah uh I I I think yeah maybe we’re running out of time so I’m sorry oh okay uh right so I just want to leave one more application question right up here because we out of time but something else to consider is uh we often identify certain sins as more significant than others like how L was willing to give up his daughters to the Mob but not willing to allow the mob to defile the visitors that were in his house right so do we do the same in in slightly different ways but similar in many ways as well yeah so let’s consider that but I think time is up so I’ll close us in prayer father thank you thank you for your word allowing us to see the severity of sin and your hatred of sin Lord we see your perfect Justice being on display in these two passages and we also see your mercy being uh given to Lord and given to us who are in Christ as well help us to um continue to be transformed by your word and to love you more each day in Christ’s name I pray amen

  • Lesson 2: Abram and Lot

    Lesson 2: Abram and Lot

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    welcome to to Sunday school it’s um it’s a pleasure um to be back uh teaching Sunday school and um going through this fantastic series of um the Patriarchs in Genesis [Music] So today we’re going to lesson uh number two this is saam and and lot and uh before uh we start let me let me make a prayer Heavenly Father we thank you for this time that we can spend studing your word thank you for um all our brothers and sisters ER we ask that you bless this time that um we are blessed by your word and that we can learn and apply what we study this morning we ask your blessing for all of us here and for the ones watching online in Jesus name amen so um as I mentioned this is lesson uh number two this is about Abraham and lot so um we are um dividing kind of uh dividing this this lesson in two parts the first part is Abraham and L lot separate and that is in Genesis 13 from 1 to 18 that’s basically the that’s the full chapter and then we’ll go through the second part that is about rescuing lot in Genesis 14 vers 12 to uh for 24 now um before we start let me make a quick recap of what we saw last week we saw last week that um um God called Abraham to go to the promised land we saw that um God made several promises to Abraham and Abraham responded and he went to to that uh that land um when he started that Journey lot um left um his homeland and went with some other people he went with his father his uh nephew and his wife so along the way in the middle of the way his father passed away and he continued the the journey with his wife and with his um his nephew with with lot now ER lot had lost his own father so it seems like uh Abraham took over lot and was kind of a paternal figure towards lot we saw Abraham taking care of lot during these passages and um so there they arrive to the to the land of Canaan and there they settle um now once they are there and uh similar to us when we are called by God we respond we are now in God’s word and then we start to to walk in the ways of the Lord but um as we know walking in the ways of the Lord doesn’t mean that our life will be easy that we will have no trials no problems no difficult circumstances no adversities and aan that’s what he’s going to experience even though he’s in the promised land and he’s now following the Lord he will face all these different situations in his life and now we will see how he respond to these situations how he reacts to the uncertainty and the unexpected events that will go in uh his life and uh in the end of the previous chapter in the end of chapter 12 we see that um he fac the first the first Triad there was a famine in the land and he went to Egypt he decided to go to Egypt looking looking for food and um things didn’t um work out for for Abraham in in Egypt uh first um he lied about uh his wife because he feared that uh he was going to be killed uh because his wife was very beautiful and they said oh they will kill me to take you so tell everybody that you are my sister not my wife which was technically um true I mean it was true but it was not the the full true because she she was not only his sister she was also his wife uh so and faraoh discovered that because faraoh had taken um SAR and uh then God has to step in we see there God now stepping in because if faraoh takes San’s wife then the plan of in the sea to Abrahams is going to be disrupted and God cannot allow that so he steps in he sends a plague to to Pharaoh then Pharaoh then discovers what is going on and he returns Sarah to Abraham and he um confronts Abraham and he um literally kicks out Abraham out of Egypt so Abraham goes out of Egypt uh humiliated and then goes back to where he was before to the land of of Canaan and that’s where we are going to take over this um this first part of the lesson so we’re going to read now Genesis vers um 1 to so so Abraham went up from Egypt to The N he and his wife and all that belonged to him and L with him now Abraham was very rich in Livestock in silver and in Gold he went on his journeys from the ne as far as beel to the place where he stand had been at the beginning between beel and I to the place of the altar which he had made there formerly and there Aban call on the name of the Lord now lot went to Abraham also now lot went with Abraham also had flocks and herds and Tents and the land could not sustain them while delling together for their possessions were so great that they were not able to remain together and there was a Strife between the Hersman of Abraham’s livestock and the Hersman of Lot’s livestock now the Canaanite and the fite were dwelling in the land so Abram said to lot please let there be no Strife between you and me nor between my Hersman and your Hersman for me for we are brothers it is not the whole land is it not the whole land before you please separate from me if to the left then I will go to the right or if to the right then I will go to the left lot lifted up his eyes and saw all the Valley of the Jordan that it was well water everywhere this was before the Lord destroyed Sodom and gomorra like the garden of the Lord like the land of Egypt as you go to S so lot choose for himself all the Valley of the Jordan and L Journey Eastward those they separated from each other aan settled in the land of Canaan while L settled in the cities of the valley and move his St as far as Sodom now the men of Sodom were weaked exceedingly and sinners against the Lord the Lord said to Abraham after Lord had separated from him the Lord said to Abraham after Lord had separated from him now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are northward and Southward and Eastward and Westward for all the land which you see I will leave it to you and to your descendants forever I will make you descendants as the do of the earth so that if anyone can number the those of the earth then your descendants can also be numbered arise walk about the land its length and bread for I will give it to you then Abraham moved his tent and came and dwelt by the O of MRE which are in heon and there he build an altar to the Lord amen so um we’ll be using basically the same techniques now that we used last week with Pastor day we’ll be analyzing the text through some questions um and to start that process let’s go to the next slides okay there it is so I just to make a um visualization of where we are this is the the map where um Abraham is um going into this journey we um saw that he went to Egypt and now he’s going back to where he was before to the land of uh Canaan and he settled he went through the ne ne Wilderness which is in the South next to Egypt then he moved North and sett again in in Beth which is like more or less in the middle we see to the south of Beal we see Jerusalem and then we see the the Dead Sea um to the to the right and uh we see there the probably prob location of of Sodom around the middle of the of the Dead Sea uh on the east side of of the sea um the location of the city Sodom s is um what um it the archaeologist think that um it could be based on discoveries but it’s cannot be as certain because those places disappear later on um but other places like Jerusalem it’s for sure that’s the the the place where it is because it’s obvious obviously there it is until until now um so that is the situation and we are talking in in terms of time it’s about the year 2000 200 100 before Christ so that’s where where this um story takes place so now let’s go to the questions to analyze the the text okay so now let’s review the text see what is in there so we going to start with the first questions what forms of wealth did aan have we can see that on chapter 13 uh verse two so he was very rich in livestock silver and gold right what is significant about theel so that’s the place where the Lord had appeared to Abraham when he first arrived in Canaan and Abraham built an altar in there we see that in chapter 12 verse 7 the Lord appeared to Abraham and said to your descendants I will give you this land so he bu an altar there to the Lord who had appear to him how did lot lot well compared to Abraham’s we see that Abraham had silver one and livestock but lot uh on verse five um we see that lot has flocks of and hers and Tents but uh we don’t see that he had silver and gold so his wealth was um not as as as big as uh Lots as s what was the source of conflict in this passage we see that there is a conflict between Abraham and lot so what was the the source of this conflict we see that in verse six the land right the land was not able uh to support all the flocks so how did Abram respond to this conflict then we see that on verse eight yeah he did what Jesus said in the parable he took the lower seat and he let lot choose where he wanted to go right right he did a proposal to L and in that proposal he was allowing lot to choose where he wanted to go now um what did lot notice about the land in the plain of the Jordan and we see that on verse 10 and we see that um what lot notic is that the land was good right it says it was well watered so and water is is is vital uh for the animals he had all his flocks so it was well water and um also the the passage um it says that um it was like the garden of the Lord now lot couldn’t have known The Garden of the Lord this is referring to the Garden in Genesis but it also mentions that it was like the land of Egypt as you go to so and lot has been in the land of Egypt with Abraham so they were coming from there so he has all that in his mind and he it’s well watered and it is like the like the land of Egypt now they comment like the the garden is more for us that we are reading this now from our perspective and and we know that the garden of the Lord was good very good so um the writer here is telling us that and was really really very very good so um we see that lot um choses that that part and um where did Abraham settle after they split company we can see that in verse number 12 uh he settled in the land of Canaan where of the Jordan River and the Dead Sea and later on on Verse 18 we see that he goes to heam um and he dwelt by The Oaks of mamre which are in heam now the first time I read about this I thought mamre was a place but mamre is not a place it’s a person so the those Oaks belong to this person mamre and abran went to to that part of the land and he settling there and uh now um is okay oh that was a that’s question sorry displaying the all the questions more than than one okay the next question is um where did lot um the lotary extended to we can see that on verse 12 as well verse 12 is telling us where Abraham went and he tell us also where lot went we saw that he choose the the land that was good and in verse 12 we have more details on this it says that lot settled in the cities of the valley and move his St as far as Sodom right now the next question um what we learn about Sodom in verse 13 so we see that um the people were Wicked exceedingly and see siners against the LA right that’s what verse 13 says now did lot know about this when he decided to go to that land I think we cannot tell for sure because the text doesn’t say he doesn’t explicitly say that lot knew about this but I think this remark is for us to see that he was going through a land that even though it was very good uh it had a problem the people were exceedingly Wicked and um then I have uh one more questions after they parted what experience did Aban have we see that in verses 14 through through 17 we see the Lord appears to him again right and what does the Lord tell Abraham um he reiterates the promise about the land and um he assures him that he and his descendants will have the land of of Canaan so after um L decided to take a what apparently was the good part god rais to Abraham hey don’t worry you will have all the land of of Canaan so these are the the points for observation um I don’t know if if you have any other point any other thing that comes up when you read this text any questions or comment yes M Glend thank you what I gather from this you know the whole question you asking I see the character of Abraham right he had his eyes focused on who not on on things around him lot had his eyes focused on the land the water but Abraham had his eyes focused on maybe he remember the promises that God has said to him the land is yours so what I’m see I’m seeing there Abraham’s character you choose you choose what you want and we see lot was looking all of the water the grass and everything for his livestock but Abraham as we if you go back to last week lesson Abraham was looking for who is giving him who had given him the promises God giv the promises the land is going to be yours so you setle L you choose M and this is sometime like us we look around and we see things looking good but behind the good things sometimes it’s not very good so we see love that went near to Sodom and they say Sodom was very Wicked so I was wondering if he know about that and he choose that to go so that’s what I see I see Abraham character there and lot character what lot wanted Earthly things but uh Abraham’s mind was set on the promise that God has given him yeah yeah right it seems like they are going they are pursuing different U different uh um wishes in their hearts right yes yeah a couple of uh observations is that in chapter 12 uh where God first appears to Abraham and he makes the promise to him that um besides the fact that uh in terms of his seed but also in terms of him being great then we see in Chapter 13 um where you had asked a question about Abraham’s possessions um and you see here while he was in uh living in the same area with his nephew lot that they had so much that um they had to separate because the land couldn’t sustain both of them so here we see uh that God is beginning to fulfill his promise that he made to Abraham because of his possessions and then he the other observation I wanted to make is that when lot shows um in terms of the land um that uh that was the issue for um you know for grazing their animals you know when lot saw when he looked towards uh Sodom and gomorah he saw that the land was rich there it’s interesting that yet um it says that the people in Sodom were very Wicked yet they were living in a land that was very prosperous and um we notice that lot what you asked the question um did lot know about the wickedness of Sodom the real issue here is that in spite of the fact that both Abraham and lot were being blessed there was something different about lot’s character that had no effect although we see in Hebrews where says that he was tormented by the wicked acts that were occurring inside yeah he was tormented by that but yet he had no impact on the city yet we see where Abraham where abra wherever Abraham went to Lodge he had an impact on the people around him there was something different about the people around him and I see us as Christians is that that we should regardless of how bad or whatever you know uh how bad the people or I guess the situation that we may find ourselves in um we should I believe we should have an impact there’s something about us that should have an impact on the area where we are that makes us different yeah thank you AR that’s a that’s a good point and um yes I think refer to something that Glenda said Abraham had his eyes set on the sovereignty of God no matter what was going to be picked he looked at the Eternal I maybe whether he knew it at that moment or not he wasn’t a perfect man but then you have lot who doesn’t even defer to the Elder the uncle that’s going to have to rescue him soon he thought he was doing what was right in his own eyes cuz he was looking at the temporal and if you look at whether it’s Israel or children or whatever when you you are making a decision based on what fits me right now it’s very selfish it’s very temporal when you’re not deferring I think when you’re not deferring to your elders like if we’re wrong as parents we’ll get smacked by God but they’ll get blessed and you see the same principles coming on down to keep your eyes on the end of where you’re focusing and God will work it out even if you make a wrong choice if you’re focused and your heart is right with him but if you’re seeking what I can get right now and you’re not deferring to those who have life experience and have gone on further you’re apt to make major mistakes in your life yeah right where do you put your eyes uh so these are all very good points and I would like to expand a little bit on on on some of what you have commented um so um the first point um I would like to mention that um when God um called Abraham he made a God made a promise to Abraham and to his descendants um and that promise ER was for for him and for his descendants so it’s a promise that cannot be spread to all other people God is making an exclusive promise for him and what we are seeing him now in this separation of Abraham and lot uh in some way is uh um God’s plan because he um wanted to make a very clear um who were going to inherit this promise and this land and who was not going to inherit uh that promise and that land um so the fact that uh they ended up separating uh I think that uh fulfills that part of God’s plan um and we see see that uh we can see that Express when Abra when God um talks again to Abraham after they are separated and reiterates the promise of the land and we will see this family separations later on on on the Patriarchs we will see that separation between Ishmael and Isaac we will see that separation between Jacob and Esau and um and that’s part of the same plan so um the plan of the Lord in his sovereignty and his wisdom was that only Abraham and uh their descendants were going to inherit that land and um this may seem a little bit harsh for us difficult to to understand uh but um we also see that even though God separates the people he still shows Mercy on the people that is separated we we uh see here that um we’ll see later on that God uh does not really abandon lot even though lot goes um away apparently goes just looking for his benefit God has Mercy on on lot and we see that also in later on when we see how people is separated God will also show Mercy on that people that is separated but the promise was very specific for Abraham and and uh his descendants and we see that now taking place into this separation now we have um mention here the two main characters Abraham and lot and and you have uh Express um good points on how they they reacting to this situation right so Abraham um when he sees this uh this conflict he takes the leadership in addressing the conflict I mean he uh doesn’t um pretend that um it do not sees he says okay well um we’ll see what happens and uh I do nothing no he takes the leadership and he goes and addresses and he him as an elder takes the responsibility he has to to look for a solution and the solution that he comes up with as um you were commenting is a solution that um where he even up he’s giving up his right as a fair choice in the land and he was the Elder so he had the right to choose to choose first he had the right to tell lot okay lot I mean you think with me uh but now we cannot be together so lot um you have to go and go and he’s not doing that he’s giving up really giving up his right and letting lot choose so I is demonstrating that he now after the disaster in Egypt he is now um growing in his faith and trusting that God will provide to to him now let’s talk about lot um lot is confronted now with um this decision and um when he receives the the promise I mean the the promise The Proposal of um of Abraham um he chooses the the best land and here um well we may see that um it’s probably um something that we could disapprove because in our culture in our current culture I mean when we are facing this sort of proposals uh I mean if I if I was aam and I do this proposal I would expect lot to take the not the best part but to take the the less part because that that’s how we work in a world culture I mean this is a Sil example but if we go to a par and we are offer two pieces of cake we tend to take the smaller one right we don’t go for the bigger one because that’s that’s that’s not correct that’s doesn’t look good in our in our culture but we don’t know if uh at that time um that was the the way that these people lived we don’t know if uh it is um was let’s say correct for lot to to take the the bigger part for for him um or not um and as I mention in in our in the way we live we would expect that lot would have said hey Uncle you have done so much for me and U no I’m you choose you choose or I choose the Lesser part that’s because that’s how we work but as you were also commenting um the decision if the decision itself may not be sinful the process that lot used to get to that decision is where we see the problem right how did he come up with this decision he lifted his eyes and saw that the land was good it reminds me um as um what Eve did in the garden when she was tempted by by the by the serpent what did she do she looked at the fruit and saw that it was good and that’s what lot is doing now he’s just lifting his eyes and he sees that the land is good and he says okay I am going there and in the end um because the people is is wicked as as the Bible mentions it will be a terrible decision for him and his family because things will end up pretty bad for him now as AR was also commenting I mean um interestingly the Bible calls lot a righteous man oh in Peter second Peter chapter 2 vers 7 8 it says and if he rescued Rous lot oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men for why for by what we for by what he saw and heard that righteous man while living among them fell his righteous Soul tormented day after day and the by their lowless deeds so he was right and that’s where we see the mercy of God that even though lot goes and uh only uses his eyes to go to the to the wood land still the Lord is showing Mercy on on lot and he’s called righteous but he is tormented according to this passage because he’s living in a place where people is exceedingly Wicked and as we saw last week uh with Pastor while the promis of God are um have an eternal um an eternal goal there are also promises that um that we can experience here on the earth or let’s say blessings that we can experience here on the earth there is joy that we are called to experience also where we are living here and lot is losing all that because he took a grown decision uh reminds me also what Pastor bik was commenting last week that um on that race that her daughter was running and um she realized that she could not run with a big backpack on her shoulders um I think that lot was running with that big backpack in his shoulders he never took off the backpack and because of that he’s running but he’s being oppressed he’s being tormented because he um doesn’t want to take off that uh heavy load from him so points for application I have here a couple of um Bible verses that can help us to reflect on that um if we are um facing a situation where we need to give up something um this passage of Philippians 2 from 5 to 8 can help us have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus who as he already existed in the form of God did not consider equally with God something to be grasped buted himself by taking the form of a bored servant and being born in the likeness of men and being found in appearance of a man he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death death on a cross so we see here the maximum example of someone who left everything for someone else see I I was thinking how Abraham um could have reacted when he heard about lot’s decision uh if um if I was Abraham I would have said oh this lot took the better part for him that’s how ungrateful he he is after all have I have made for him and now he goes to the best part of the land H probably I would be grumbling about that but we don’t see that in Abraham because he was really giving up his rights so when we do this type of um proposals I think one of the the things that um that happen is that we are not really giving up something now we say it and that happens in our personal interactions we say something to someone but uh we expect the other person to take the Lesser part because that’s how we work but in reality what happens inside us is that we are not willing to let that bigger part go we are not willing to give up our ride and we just say it outside but we don’t say it inside uh so look up for the example of Jesus and this may be a an easier thing for us and if we are like lot that um we are just making decisions based on our personal wealth on um our um financial interest and um and I don’t say it is not a relevant part because I mean it is it’s something that we have to take care but it’s not the only it’s not the only part we cannot just make decisions by lifting our eyes and see what’s out there so Matthew 63133 it says do not worry then saying what are we to eat or what are we to to drink or what are we to wear for clothing but seek first his kingdom and his righteousness and all these things will be provided to you so that’s the first part of our study now let’s go to the second part the second part is in chapter 14 from verses 12 to 24 but um before going into into this text um let me make a quick recap of what happened before on the verses from one to to 11 of chapter 14 so we see on this part of the text that um there is a war there is a war now in the in the land and um there is um the this is by the way the first part in in in the Bible where a is mentioned prior to the flood we had seen that um the Bible says there there was violence but um this is the first time that we see um this violence Express Express in a in a form of a war in a form of a formal war between between kingdoms and there are a Four Kings that come from the north from the land of Mesopotamia precisely where um the land where Abraham was coming from um we see those on the left side of the screen for four rulers from four cities and they are going to face five rulers from five cities of the land of of Canaan and the surrounding areas where Abraham and lot were living we see there also the names of the rulers and the cities the king of the city of Bella is not named however the Bible indicates that they were five five Kings and and five cities um and they will face each other in the valley of sidim which you can see there in the maps small but it’s basically like in the middle middle south of the south sea and uh it’s a part that the Bible also calls the sea salt and one of the points here is how can this be a valy and a sea at the same time and um according to Answers in Genesis uh this um part of of the of the Dead Sea if you see it in the map there are like two parts of the sea one to the North and the other to the South they are connected by a narrow piece of of water um which nowadays is in fact that is dry I mean the the two parts are are separate and um according to a geologist the South part uh at some times had a very low level of water so um when the water was so low this could become like a valley and um now that’s where these two armies are going to to face each other um the the land is um that that Valley the Bible mentions that it’s full of pits pits Tar Pits so that um um can also correlate to the situation that um there is we but then the the we um goes down and then the land is exposed but um because of the that humidity there there are this these pits forming there so let’s uh read now the the passage from um ver uh chapter 4 14 verse 12 to the end of chapter 14 so Chapter 14 verse 12 so they they took um lot Abraham’s nephew and his possessions and departed for he was living in Sodom so what happens here is that the armies that were coming to that land the four Kings defeated the F Kings and they took lot um with him as captive and then verse 13 then a fugitive came and told Abram the Hebrew and told Abram the Hebrew now he was leaving by The Oaks of mamin the am Amorite brother of fesol and brother of anner and these were Alys with Abraham when Abraham heard that his relative had been taken captive he let out his strength men boarding his house 318 and went in Pursuit as far as then he divided his forces against them by night he and his servants and defeated them and pomed them as far as hobo which is not of Damascus he brought back all the go the goods and also brought back his relative lot with his possessions and also the women and the people then after his return from the defeat of K koler and the Kings who were with him the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the valley of shave that is the King’s Valley and melchisedek king of Salem brought out Bread and Wine now he was a priest of the god most high and blessed him and said bless be Abraham of God most high possessor of Heaven and Earth and bless be God most high who was the lier who had deliver your enemies into your land he gave him a tent of all the king of Sodom said to Abraham keep the people to me and take the goods for yourself Abraham said to the king of Sodom I have swor to the Lord God most high possessor of Heaven and Earth that I will not take a threat or a sandal thong or anything that is yours for fear you would say I have made Abraham rich I will take nothing except what the young men have eaten and the share of the men who went with me and esol and mamre let them take their sh their share okay so we see here um as um was commenting the Four Kings that came from um the East defeat Ed these five Kings here and they took a lot uh captive and um then Abraham was notified of that and he went on to rescue his nephew and it says that he went as far as Dan and Damascus which you can see there in the map they are farther north and that’s about 150 miles from where he was living more or less so took on a on a long expedition to to go on this Rescue Mission so let’s analyze the the text and see what we find so how is Abraham describing verse 13 where vers 13 of chapter 14 so we see here that The Fugitive came and told Abraham the Hebrew so he’s mentioning here as a Hebrew and that’s the first time that this term appears in the Bible and where do this term come um this term comes from the genealogy of Aban in Chapter 11 in chapter 11 uh we see a the genealogy Abraham comes from uh Shem one of the sons of Noah so we can trace the genealogy back to to Noah and then um there were many many other people before sham and Abram and like in the middle of the genealogy in um verse 16 we see here a character we see here in verse he it says verse 16 ever Liv 34 years and became the father of Belo and never live 430 years after he became the father of Pac and he had other sons and daughters so this um term of Hebrew comes from from eever that is mentioned in the genealogy of of Aban that’s the origin of of this term and then we see that this term continues um to be applied in along the the scripture and even to to our days so next question was Lot the only one taken captive I think the answer is pretty obvious so ver 12 mentions only Abram but later on on verse um um 13 and um we see that um there were that lot not only rescu that ABR not only rescued lot but all the women and people that had also been taken captive so he was not the only one taken captive now how did Abram respond to the news we can see that in verse 14 what did he do he gathered his servants armed them and went after the Raiders so he build up small army based on the men that he had with him that work for him and when to to this Mission and what was the outcome of the battle well we know it lot won the the battle he had Victory and uh brought back lot um and the women and the people that were taking captive who met Abraham when as he first returned we see that on on verse 17 the king of Sodom right see that’s the the first one who meets um Abraham and later on we see another interesting and sort of mysterious character we see mikc now what do we learn about mikis sedc what we do know about of him this is kind of a mysterious character because we don’t really see more about melis sedc we do not see where he came from how come he was a priest of the god most high we don’t know we don’t know his origin um all we we know is that he was the king of Salem a priest of God uh Salem is um older name of Jerusalem it’s basically the same the same place and melis sedc er the meaning of this word is king king of righteousness we know he was a king of righteousness according to his name and he was also a priest um but we don’t know anything else about this mysterious character that comes up here comes from nowhere and greets uh Abram um in Hebrews chapter 7 we see a a big comment about melkisedek we see that the Bible um affirms that melkisedek was a priest a priest of God he was not a priest that was worshiping other gods canate gods or some other gods he was a real uh worshipper and priest of of um the Lord of of God um and it is a picture a portrait of what Jesus is later on going to be for us because MC is appears now to bless Abraham as a king of righteousness uh as a priest and then Jesus will come as the perfect the maximum um priest and the maximum blessing for us so it’s an interesting picture of this and of of of Jesus and uh a full uh a wider commentary on this you can see in in Hebrews in the book of Hebrews uh on chapter chapter 7 now what uh two things did MC do for Abraham um well he we see that he brought the breath and wine to feed him and he offer a blessing to him yeah and what did Abraham do in response to the blessing he gave a tenth of everything and that’s the first time that we see this act of giving it 10% of something to to God so Abraham by doing that he’s acknowledging the blessing of meis sedc as his Blessing and um last question what did This Ti signify about the relationship between Aon and MC well um as I was commenting I is uh recognizing the priest uh the role that MC is portraying and um he’s receiving the true blessing of meis sedc now analyzing uh reviewing this this text we see here again the character of Abraham because he’s notified about something and the stranger goes to Abraham and he tells him hey this happened and lot was taken captive and what does abam do he uh went on the mission right and I think was what um this person was expecting from him know why does he go to Abraham because Abram is a prominent person in that land he has been blessed he’s Rich he has over 300 people under his chch so he’s going to Abraham and he expects that Abraham Abraham at that time still ABR he expect that he does something and Abraham responds responds and he says okay yes I will do I will I will do something and I will go on this um on this Mission even though it’s a very dangerous and very risky Mission and to put this into perspective these uh Kings uh did not um these Four Kings had not only defeated the five Kings but prior to that we see on the first verses of uh chapter 14 they have been also defeating some other thbes they defeated the raim the susim emim horide amalekites the amorites they have been raiding all that area they have defeated these six tribes and they went on and defeated the vikins and they they were four against five and even though they defeated and they defeated them in their own land we would expect that these vikins know better the land and in spite of that they defeated and so what um Abraham was going to phase two was not a minor thing it was a really big big thing facing this powerful and mighty Army and in despite of the racek that did involved he went after them and rescue uh lot and and the other people and we see here also uh the mercy of God expressing lot because he’s rescued from from uh from captivity and we also see here the mercy of God extended to other people because not only lot is rescue but also the other people that have been taken captive with with lot they are all rescued so the mercy of um one believer sometimes um it goes to the people around him right and in that case that’s what happened um now um as we saw Abraham recognizes the the priesthood of madc and and honors madc by giving him the the tithe but um later on uh we see that the king of Solon makes him a proposal and the king of Solon tells Abraham hey Abram um just give me the back the the people and you keep all um what you took on on the battle and Abraham what does he do he rejects that proposal right because he was not going after um he was not going um to to become a richer person he was not going to for for the wealth and he is seeing the danger in becoming a partner with this King because we know Sodom and by that time probably Abraham knew that it was a wicked Kingdom it was a wicked King and he said no I’m not going to associate with you I mean um I will uh take only what I what I spend I will just take my my expenses and the rest is yours I don’t want it you can have it um and also the temptation to become um a king himself because after what he did nobody else could do it nobody could defeat this these Kings he was the only one he could have said he now I’m in charge I rescue you all now you all uh come to me and I going to be the king of you all but he didn’t do that he is now going back to his ways uh just trusting in God’s promises and happy with what he what he had what the Lord has given him so um points for our application I would like to express this this two Bible verses first one again in Philippians um 2 three 4 do nothing from selfish selfishness or empty conceit but with humility consider one another as more important than yourselves do not merely look for your own personal interest but also for the interest of others and I think we can see Abraham doing this he went to rescue lot just for the goodness of lot without looking for his own benefit and finally I think with what we have read so far and what we will continue reading in um Genesis one thing that we can also see is the character of God how God is revealing to Abraham and how God is revealing to all of us as well um we can see the we can take lessons of how um the Lord how Abraham acted ER we can take lessons on how lot acted but we can also know the character of God and uh I would like to finish with this verse in Exodus 33 1819 then Moses said please show me your glory and he said I myself myself will make all my goodness pass before you and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious and I will show compassion to whom I will show compassion that is the character of God and I think we can see part of that character reveal on these um passages that we have studied this morning so any would one would like a to make a final comment or question okay well thank you for your attention we’ll see you next week

  • Lesson 1: God Calls Abram

    Lesson 1: God Calls Abram

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    to Sunday school yes it’s that time today we are beginning a new series Patriarchs of the promise this is a 16we study of Genesis 12-50 which essentially is a record of the lives of Israel’s Patriarchs Abraham Isaac Jacob and Jacob’s sons Joseph especially now before we get into our first lesson of our new series I want to give you or I want to answer a few introductory questions about our new course and the first is why why this steady there’s actually a few ways I can answer that number one so that we as a church May grow in our Bible knowledge and theology especially when it comes to the foundational Book of Genesis if you’ve been with us for a few years you may realize that back in 2023 we started a new effort at surveying the whole Bible as a church moving through the Bible from the beginning starting in Genesis 1 we did the creation Foundation we did the consequences of sin which went brought us through Genesis 1:1 those two series and this is the next installment in that series of gradually building up our understanding and familiarity with the whole scriptures but number two another reason for this study is so that we may as a church grow in our skill of Bible study as we get more practice with what is called the inductive Bible study method now can anybody tell me what the inductive Bible study method isse byse it often does go verse by verse it’s a three-step method a simple three-step method for Bible study does anybody know what those three-steps are yeah Keith observe interpret that’s right observe interpret and apply it’s very important that when you study the Bible and I think many of you are familiar with this already that you capture what God originally said rather than what you only think he said or what you would like him to have said taking time to go through the proper process of Bible study will help keep you on track and that means before you come to any conclusions or applications as to how you should live your life you just take time to observe what’s in the text what are the details of the text and then build off of that now we’re going to explain more and we’re going to model more of this method throughout the course and as we do that hopefully that helps your own Bible study so that’s a second reason for this study but then there’s a third and that is so that we like the Patriarchs and the children of Israel after them to whom Moses originally wrote about the Patriarchs we might learn to trust and obey God even when the way forward looks hopeless or circumstances do not make sense and isn’t this the basic lesson that we need to to learn and relearn throughout our Christian lives indeed this was the subject of our previous Sunday Sunday school series on trusting God and during that series we made frequent reference to Genesis and the Patriarchs but now we’re actually going to study the lives of the Patriarchs in sequence so that we can see vividly what it looks like and why we should trust God so these two series are going to function well together I believe so multiple reasons why we’re going into this study all for your edification and for the glory of God now here’s the second question introductory question why the title Patriarchs of the promise well it has a nice alliteration but that’s not the only reason I chose it we might have expected Patriarchs of the promises plural because there are as we’ll see multiple promises given to the Patriarchs in these chapters of Genesis in truth though the scriptures sometimes describe the package of blessings or promises given by Sovereign Grace to Abraham and his chosen descendants merely as the promise so sometimes it we’ll talk about all the promises as simply the promise so maybe singular versus plural is not that big of a deal but I’ve chosen the singular because I’d like to emphasize that these Patriarchs were just early inheritors of the fundamental salvation promise that was announced before them and which would persist after them now you’ll see more of what I mean as we go through this is steady you’ll even see a little bit of that today but just know right now that these Patriarchs they are spiritual forefathers of the same salvation promise that we have come to enjoy and see fulfilled in Jesus Christ so in that sense they are Patriarchs of the promise singular one last question where are we going in this course as I said it’s 16 lessons on Genesis 12 to 50 and we’re using the answers Bible curriculum from Answers in Genesis to give us our fundamental orientation now number of you have heard of Answers in Genesis and even this curriculum before this is solid Bible teaching uniquely though with an apologetic emphasis Genesis is one of the most doubted books of the Bible not just in its first chapters but even as we go into the lives of the Patriarchs so it’s helpful to have a little bit of an apologetic Angle now I sent you an email of the specific lessons uh previewing the specific lessons of our study and you can see them again on the screen I won’t read all of those but this is where we’re going from now to approximately May 4th so we’ll be in this for a little while 16 lessons my co-teachers and I I’m not the only one teaching this course I once again have a few others with me I’ve got hostway penalo Ian pong and Mark twamley we look forward to going through these lessons with you in an engaging and interactive way hopefully also giving time to answer questions as part of each lesson okay so that’s what we’re looking at but enough introduction let’s get into today’s lesson which is lesson one God calls Abram now who’s Abram later called Abraham Abram was a particularly significant person in Redemptive history yet in many ways he was just like us we’re going to spend a number of L lessons looking at Abram Abraham and our first lesson is going to focus on God’s calling of Abraham Abram and we want to notice a few facets of that record how did Abram respond to God’s call why did God call Abram to what did Abram ultimately look forward in God’s call and how can Abram’s response and thinking instruct Us and how we ought to live today that’s basically our lesson outline and we’ll mainly be exploring one passage Genesis 11:27 to 129 to answer these questions but before we go there let me have a word of Prayer Lord God we thank you for the record of these Patriarchs this is written for our instruction I pray God that as we investigate that you would open our eyes to wondrous truths in your law and God that it wouldn’t just be something that expands our Bible knowledge or helps us make connections in the scriptures that’s valuable but something Lord that truly changes us so that we can become men and women of noticeable Faith as you cause these men and the women with them Lord to also become bless this time Lord for your name’s sake amen all right let’s go ahead and actually read the historical account that’s going to be the main part of our Focus today turn to Genesis 11 we’re looking at 20 or verse 27 of that chapter to verse 9 of the next chapter mostly we’re looking at Genesis CH 12 but keep connected the preceding context before we look at our new passage in the beginning of chapter 11 we have a record of the confusion at Babel the episode that took place the city in the Tower of Babel remember that’s not too long after the flood then what follows after that is a genealogy linking Shem Noah’s son to Abram so that’s presented as a historical record this wasn’t some myth okay there’s these mythical things that happen all right here’s here’s the new history no it’s just one orderly sequence presented as history the whole thing and our passage picks up right at the end of that linking genealogy so follow along now as I read Genesis 11:27 to 129 now these are the records of the generation of Tara Tara became the father of Abram nahor and haran and haran became the father of lot haran died in the presence of his father terara in the land of his birth Earth and er of the calans Abram and nahor took wives for themselves the name of Abram’s wife was Sarai and the name of nahor’s wife was milka the daughter of heran the father of milka and isca Sarai was baren she had no child Tara took Abram his son and lot the son of haran his grandson and Sarai his daughter-in-law his son Abram’s wife and they went out together from IR the calans in order to enter the land of Canaan and they went as far as haran and settled there the days of terara were 205 years and terara died in haran now the Lord and that’s the Hebrew name Yahweh there now Yahweh said to Abram go forth from your country and from your relatives and from your father’s house to the land which I will show you and I will make you a great nation and I will bless you and make your name great and so you shall be a blessing and I will bless those who bless you and the one who curses you I will curse and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed so Abram went forth as Yahweh had spoken to him and lot went with him now Abram was 75 years old when he departed from Haron Abram took Sarah his wife and lot his nephew and all their possessions which they had accumulated and the persons which they had acquired in Haron and they set out for the land of of Canaan thus they came to the land of Canaan Abram passed through the land as far as the site of sheim to the Oak of morah now the Canaanite was then in the land Yahweh appeared to Abram and said to your descendants I will give this land so he built an altar there to Yahweh who had appeared to him then he proceeded from there to the mountain on the east of bethl and pitched his tent with bethl on the west and I on the East and there he built an altar to Yahweh and called upon the name of Yahweh Abram journeyed on continuing toward the negative and we’ll stop there now let’s analyze this passage according to the inductive Bible study method what is step one again observe you’re asking the question what do I see so let’s do that let’s just make simple observations on the details of this text notice the relatives of Abram mentioned in this passage we have Tera his father nahor his brother Haron his other brother who dies in ER lot his nephew he’s the son of Haron Sarai his wife and half sister same father different mother and then we have milka the wife of nahor the daughter of Heron which means that she is both sister-in-law and niece to Abram does that feel like it’s too much to keep track of well here’s a little family tree that might help a tiny bit if you look at this closely you may notice that these immediate relatives of Abram they include some married close relations there’s more we’ll say about this or more we could say about this God eventually makes clear that he doesn’t want these types of relationships in Israel’s law it is forbidden these would be considered incestuous but it appears that God tolerated this in the early days of the world especially after the flood and babble and in many ways this is to be expected following Babel as families and tribes separated from one another they didn’t know anybody else they weren’t with anybody else they couldn’t understand the languages of other people and so they often just married within themselves this was somewhat common but it would become less common as time goes on now notice a little aside we’re told about Sarai what do we learn about her from the text she’s Barren besides the fact that she’s Abram’s wife we learned that she’s now that’s a big deal back then and it would be a big deal to Abram as we’ll see in later lessons now Tara so that’s Abram’s father Tara and his family go on a little migration notice where verse 31 in chapter 11 says they intended to go where to Canaan it says that they were moving from IR the calans to Canaan Now where’s ER some debate among Bible interpreters as to which ER is meant there were apparently multiple s back at that time most likely the ER referred to here was a decently large city in Calia which would be another reference to where the calans lived or southern Mesopotamia so if you can see on the map all the way in the right side of the screen in that picture you see ER in lower Mesopotamia now people have done archaeological excavations on this ancient city and they’ve une Earth the base of a huge zigurat there does anybody know what a zigurat is it’s kind of a stepped Tower or pyramid thing often with religious functions archaeologists have also discovered that religious worship in this city of ER in Mesopotamia it’s centered on the moon God nen so I think we can understand this is this is a pagan City it’s not following the true God but terara even though he sets out from ER in Mesopotamia Tera and those with him they don’t make it to Canaan from ER notice where they stop instead according to the end of verse 31 that is haran now this journey from ER to haran you see it there would have been about 600 miles you say oh that sounds like a lot but what does that really look like well to give you a rough estimate about how how far that is that’d be like walking from New Jersey to South Carolina it’s a decent walk now Haron like refers to what is later called haran with two RS in Assyria and it corresponds to ruins that are today in modern turkey you can see it you’re basically moving Northwest from ER along the rivers to what would be later Assyria now you might be wondering why did these Travelers not simply go west into Canaan why do they decide to go up why do they go Northwest does anybody know the answer okay so there’s water along the rivers but also if they TR decide to go west they run into the Arabian Desert which is not very easy to travel through and there’s a good chance you might not make it through so like most people in those times they didn’t go west they go up along the rivers and along the trade routes and then the intention is to go down this by the way is why later Empires whenever they’re invading Israel from which direction do they come usually the north because that’s the only way to get there unless you’re Egypt now the reason they don’t make it all the way to well no I I I’ll say it this way notice in verse 32 that Tara dies in haran at the age of wow Genesis 12 then opens with a sudden command from God to Abram to travel again and verse one relates several aspects of that command that Abram could have found difficult notice what God essentially says to Abram in verse one leave leave your country the land you know and have gotten used to leave your relatives the people you know and with whom you have lived for years the people who have been your support and allies leave your father’s house you’re no longer going to live under or follow your father’s or your older brother’s leadership and go to the place that I will show you and Noti he doesn’t tell him specifically where that is he just says go to the place what I will show you move in a certain Direction Hebrews 118 in the New Testament makes more explicit that Abraham did not know where he was going when he set out in response to God’s call so these are some commands with some perhaps unsettling implications but God also attaches to this command or this set of commands some profound promises and notice what they are in verses 2 to 3 we see a number of them he tells Abram I will make you a great nation and I will bless you I will make your name great I will make you a blessing and this next one is interesting people will be blessed or cursed based on how they treat you the ESV is actually a little bit more enlightening here than our present nasby 95 translation because we he we see this nice equivalent phrases the one who curses you I will curse the one who blesses you I will bless it’s not totally like that in the original Hebrew the ESV translation of uh the first part of verse three is I will bless those who bless you and him who dishonors you I will curse that’s a little bit more reflective of the original Hebrew because those latter two terms are not equivalent God says if they bless you I will bless them same word equivalent but if they so much as dishonor you literally in the Hebrew if they make you light if they treat you lightly or merely treat you contemptuously I will curse them and you don’t want to be cursed by almighty God he says even if they just treat you lightly I will curse them W and notice one other promise at the end of verse three God says and you I will cause all families of the earth to be blessed All Families all people not just Abram and his physical descendants now these are some pretty hefty promises in these two verses aren’t they what does Abram do in response to God’s call and promises he obeys and he sets out from haran now notice how old is Abram when he does this according to verse 4 chapter 12 he’s 75 years old and notice who and what Abram takes with him as he sets out anyone tell me he takes his nephew lot his wife Sarai and all that he had acquired in haran lots of possessions and people we say oh people well that could be acquired servants or slaves the word is the same in Hebrew for describing both of those so it may be that he actually acquired slaves or they were just servants but whoever he Acquired and whatever possessions he acquired he’s setting out with them in response to God’s call we hear then that Abel Trav Abram travels to Canaan specifically to sheam now sheam was a Canaanite town about 30 miles north of Jerusalem it’s kind of small on the map I don’t know if you’ll be able to see it but from Hermon to Sheen would have been a trek about 400 miles so not quite as long as the previous one this would be roughly equivalent from walking from South Carolina to Florida but he makes that Journey too and after Abram arrives at sheam we hear that the Lord appears to Abram and notice there’s an additional promise that God gives to Abraham in sheim and what is that promise he says the land the land where you currently are and the land in which the Canaanites currently live God says I will give it to you and your descendants Abraham or Abram so he promises the land so have you’ve been tracking how many different promises have has God given so far in this chapter that depends on maybe how how you decide whether certain commands are different or the same I’m counting seven or eight that’s a lot of promises either way notice what Abram does in response in verse seven he builds an altar there verse eight says that Abram builds another altar when he arrives what would later be called bethl that’s a site seven miles north of Jerusalem and Abram also calls upon the name of Yahweh there that’s a phrase that we do see a few other times in the Old Testament first appears in Genesis 4:26 also in the Psalms Abram calls upon the name of Yahweh Abram doesn’t stay in bethl though notice our passage ends with Abram journeying in verse 9 toward the neev and that’s just the southern desert area below what would later be called Judah the land of Judah we can make more observations but that’ll do for now having made these observations let’s now proceed to the second step of the inductive Bible study method which is what interpretation that’s why we’re asking ourselves what does it mean you want to take the details that you’ve observed the data you’ve gathered and now try and answer questions about the text that are not otherwise explicitly made clear I’ve got a number of questions here that relate through interpretation let’s look at them why did terara leave ER with Abram for Canaan this whole passage is about Abram and his being called by God to go to Canaan why does Tara leave for Canaan uh why are we told that Tara leaves for Canaan first Glenda that was question I wanted to ask Abraham If Abraham really understood the first call that he stay there and then move with his father and his whole family if did he understand the first call that’s what the question I wanted to ask did he understand the first call to move in chapter 11:27 and then waited for the second call in chapter 12 so I you know I would like to know what you have to yeah yeah so this is an interesting question right and it’s not one that’s totally made the answer is not totally made clear in our text however it’s worth bringing in another text in answer to this question we hear in the New Testament Stephen as he’s recounting the history of Israel to the Sanhedrin in Acts 7: 2 to4 notice what Steven says he says Hear Me Brethren and fathers the god of Glory appeared to Our Father Abraham when he was in Mesopotamia before he lived in haran and said to him leave your country and your relatives and come into the land that I will show you then he left the land of the calans and settled in haran from there after his father died God had had him move to his country in which you are now living okay that’s interesting did you catch did you catch some details in what stevenh said according to Steph when did God first call Abram when he was in ER not in haran as we read in uh Genesis uh Genesis 11: 12 so it’s possible that when Abram received the call in ER that Terror was made aware of it and he says oh you’re going to leave all right I’m going to go with you or maybe Tara had his own reasons for moving and it just so happened to coincide with abr’s call but it’s possible that tera’s actions are influenced by the fact that God had called Abram even in ER but this goes to a second part of the your question Glenda my next question all right well if he was called in ER why do they stop along the way why do Tara and Abram settle in Haron from the text that we have the answer is not totally clear we can think of maybe some reasons it may be that while Tara was content to go along with Abram when he was first called an ER he decides he doesn’t want to go all the way and Abram he’s hesitant to leave his father and family behind they were content to live in haran all right Abram says well I guess I’ll I’ll stay here too it is notable that in God’s call to ABR in Genesis 12 God explicitly says in a couple different ways you got to leave your relatives you got to leave what you know you got to leave your family and go where I’m showing you so it may be that Abram was hesitant or it could be for more innocent reason it could be that Tara and maybe some of the other relatives that they still do want to go with Abram but we know that Tara dies in Haron maybe he fell ill and he was not able to go any further and Abram didn’t want to leave his father to just die alone he wanted to be there there until his father passed or maybe though God first called Abram in ER it was only to go a certain distance and Abram was waiting for more instruction maybe God had because as we read in Genesis 12 he says go forth to the country to the land from your country to the land which I will show you maybe he hadn’t given Abram more Direction and he was just waiting until God gave him more we don’t know possible possible different answers but from what we have in the text we can’t say for sure let’s move on to another question then why does AB keep moving around even after arriving in Canaan so it’s not like go to the land I’ll show you okay show up settle n it keeps on moving around why okay you might be a little tired of me saying this but we don’t can’t say for sure when uh from the data that we have in this text again it could be that he’s just following in God’s Direction though the text doesn’t say that God is telling him to move around in these different places this could be that Abram simply getting acquainted with the land Genesis 13 as we’ll see next time in the next lesson God says look over here look over there get acquainted with this land which I’m giving to you and your descendants so maybe he’s doing that we do know that there’s a famine coming at the end of chapter 12 so maybe this movement has to do with that but perhaps the answer is most simple and that is that Abram is someone who is a livestock owner and if you’ve got a lot of animals can you just stay in one place usually not especially not at that time you got to keep moving why you need New Pasture you need fresh pasture for your animals so Abram and his descendants they’re going to be moving around a lot probably simply because they got to take care of their animals but he’s in Canaan and his descendants will be too now here’s a here’s a question that we can maybe answer with a little bit more maybe was Abram a pagan was Abram a pagan idolator when God first called him you say DAV where did that come from where’s that question coming from well notice that with Abram here when he’s called there is no sort of descriptor that says and Abram was a righteous man more righteous than all others on the earth we did hear that kind of description earlier in Genesis we heard that with Noah we heard something like that with Enoch we’ll hear it other places in the scriptures if we look at um a parallel character job job’s not mentioned in Genesis but he seems to have been around either slightly before or even at the same time as Abraham he’s called a righteous man but there’s no descriptor like that for Abram when he’s introduced to us we also noted that IR was a pagan City that’s where he lived and and we hear the following in Joshua 2: 2:3 Joshua 2: 2:3 and Joshua is speaking to the people as they are about to enter the land and begin the conquest that God has called them to do and he says to them thus says Yahweh the god of Israel from ancient times your fathers live beyond the river namely Tara the father of Abraham and the father of nahor and they served other gods then I took your father Abraham from behind the beyond the river and led him through all the land of Canaan and multiplied his descendants and gave him Isaac now that’s interesting God through Joshua reminds the people that their forefathers Tara included and remember Tara is Abraham’s father Abram’s father they served foreign gods and in contrast to that God called Abram and his descendants out from that background so what does all this mean was Abram a pagan idolor when God first called him we can’t say for sure it seems his father was his family was likely he was too now it’s possible he was a Yahweh follower in the midst of a whole bunch of other people who weren’t but more likely he was just like his family and all the more reason why God would tell him it’s time for you to leave your family I’m calling you out to something different now if that is the case if likely he was just a pagan worshipper like all the others around him nothing particularly righteous or special about Abram why does God choose Abram why does God call him to go out why does God promise him such blessings and his descendants I’ll let you answer this question okay ultimately we can’t say for sure except there is one answer we can say this is Sovereign Grace this has to be Sovereign Grace it simply pleased God and His purposes to do this according to the Bible Abram did nothing to Merit God’s call or blessings he was likely a wicked idolator just like the rest of his family just like his neighbors but God decided to show undeserved favor to Abram and through him to the world from Abram God was going to bring forth a special people a people for God’s own personal possession a holy people a kingdom of priests witnessing to and interceding for all the peoples of the Earth but God was by no means obligated to do this nevertheless it pleased him to pour out undeserved love on some even Abraham and his descendants and the will through them to show forth his glory but this kind of action from God is not too surprising to us if we know the rest of the scriptures because isn’t this what God does with us and with all those with whom he has blessed his presence in Salvation why does God love you why has God SE fit to bless you give salvation to you was it because you had some Merit you were more righteous than all the peoples of the earth no you were just as hopelessly in sin as the rest whether it was self-righteous sin or obvious rebellious sin but to please God to love you to care for you to Mark you out as his possession to show his glory to you and through you and to pour out his blessings on you it’s the same it’s the same with Abram as with us another question what is the significance of Genesis 123b where it says God says to Abraham in you you all the families of the earth will be blessed what’s the significance of that phrase yeah Mark and the Salvation that would come through Christ as his descendant that’s right so Mark says this is foreshadowing Christ and the Salvation that would come through Christ as Abram’s descendant now Abram wouldn’t have known all of that the full significance of this phrase could not have been comprehended by Abram at that time but God was revealing partially his plans to Abram and for Abram that went beyond Abram that would come about in his descendants God was going to work good a astounding blessing for All Families of the world through Abram and this may remind you of a similar process uh promise that we’ll actually see later in Genesis 26 Genesis 264 God tells Isaac and in your Offspring all the nations of the earth will be blessed now Offspring in The New American Standard is literally seed in Hebrew in your seed all the nations of the Earth shall be blessed now where have we already heard an important promise about a seed in Genesis that’s right Genesis 3:15 if there’s a Bible verse in Genesis that you want to know and maybe commit to memory that might be a good one Genesis 3:15 is so foundational sometimes called the Proto evangelium the First Gospel as part of God’s curse to the serpent God says in Genesis 3:15 and I will put emnity between you and the woman and between your seed the Serpent’s Seed and her seed he shall bruise you on the head and you shall bruise him on the heel a lot of information uh not made clear in that initial statement except that there’s going to be salv deliverance from the serpent coming in the seed of the woman someday in the future but now we’re getting more information about that seed another promise connected to a coming seed that’s told to Isaac and in a way it’s told to Abram here little by little this is the way God chose to do it little by little his salvation his savior is being revealed in the Old Testament as Mark said as Christians at the uh f fillment of these promises we know who the seed is the promise seed of the woman the promise Seed of Abraham and the Patriarchs it is Jesus Christ Our Lord Abram didn’t know his name specifically or his identity specifically nevertheless from this statement from God to Abram we see that God’s plan was already in motion it was already moving forward and Abram had an important part to play in that plan now Abram responds to God’s call in heran and even in her with obedience he goes out as God calls him to do but why why did Abram obey God’s call he obeyed because he believed he obeyed because he had Faith now we haven’t yet come to the most um explicit and critical verse in describing what motivates Abram but in Genesis 15:6 it’s coming Genesis 15:6 here’s another really good verse for you to know from Genesis Genesis 156 describes Abram in response to a promise from God it says then he believed in Yahweh and he that is Yahweh reckoned it to him Abraham as righteousness by faith Abram believed God’s promises and obeyed God’s commands and it wasn’t Abram’s obedience it wasn’t his Holiness that therefore merited salvation or the blessings to him rather God considered him Justified and righteous on the basis of faith alone and even this Faith though was not from Abraham itself himself it is a gift from God as we know very well from that new testament verse set of verses Ephesians 28 and9 for by Grace you have been saved through faith and and this both the grace and the faith not of yourselves it is a gift of God so that no one will boast so Abraham obeyed because he believed God and God’s the one who gave him that Faith to believe but what exactly did Abraham have faith in was it that Abram was simply excited about the specific material blessings that God promised me because God does promise material blessings many descendants a great name a blessed life a land of call his own a Land for his descendants to call his own was it just for the this world blessings that Abram was so motivated and if so could not Satan lay the same charge against Abram as he lays against job God he only obeys you because you bless him materially take away these worldly blessings and Abram will curse you to your face what’s really at the heart of Abram’s faith the best way to answer these questions is to look at another passage so move from Genesis 12 to the book of Hebrews Hebrews 11: 8-16 now we’ve actually been encountering this section of scripture Lately from Pastor Bobby’s preaching Hebrews 11: 8-16 gives some clarification about what was going on in Abram’s heart even in his being called by God to go to another land now remember the book of Hebrews is written partly the Jewish Christians undergoing persecution many of these Jewish Christians are thinking about renouncing faith in Jesus and just returning to the old Judaism to escape suffering and perhaps death chapter 11 this Hall of faith in many ways it is a call to persevere by looking at the examples of many Old Testament Saints who had faith in God and Abram who’s called Abraham here here is part of that list now listen to what the writer of Hebrews says about Abram in verses 8-6 of 11 he says by faith Abraham when he was called obeyed by going out to a place which he was to receive for an inheritance and he went out not knowing where he was going by faith he lived as an alien in the land of promise as in a foreign land dwelling in tense with Isaac and Jacob fellow Heirs of the same promise for he was looking for the city which has foundations whose architect and Builder is God by faith even Sarah herself received ability to conceive even beyond the proper time of life since she considered him faithful who had promised therefore there was born even of one man and him as good as dead as that as many descendants as the stars of Heaven in number and inumerable as the sand which which is by the seashore all these died in faith without receiving the promises but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance and having confessed that they were strangers and Exiles on the earth for those who say such things make it clear that they are seeking a country of their own and indeed if they had been thinking of that country from which they went out they would have had opportunity to return but as it is they desire a better country that is a Heavenly one therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God for he has prepared a city for them notice a few things with me about this new testament passage we can’t make as many observations as um as we might have been able to with the time that we have but notice a few things here which promise of God to Abram is highlighted by the author in verses 8 to9 okay well before that particular phrase he mentions that he’s looking for uh he’s promised a land inheritance he was to receive going out to a place which he was to receive for an inheritance and then it talks about in verse 9 he lived as an alien in the land of promise so we just saw this in Genesis 12 right he gets to Canaan God says to you and your descendants I give this land that land is Promised he’s there but as you point out in Glenda you pointed out Glenda in verse 10 what does it say that Abraham was waiting for a city which has foundations whose architect and Builder is God so he’s in the land but he’s waiting for a different land and such a city is contrasted with the kind of living conditions that verse n mentions Abraham and his descendants lived on earth they lived in tents that’s temporary dwelling now did Abraham receive the promised land while alive no it was promised to him but it’s not like he became the owner of it then in verses 11 to 12 there’s a reference to another promise that God made to Abraham what’s that promise seed a seed I’m going to make you a great nation did Abraham receive that promise while alive yes he did in seed form yes you see the Promise on its way to fulfillment but no there was no Nation there was no great people that were now populating the land even though that’s what God promised him he had not received the promise in full instead we look at verse 13 while he and his descendants they did not receive those specific promises they didn’t receive the land they didn’t receive they had not yet become a nation what what was their attitude towards those promises they welcomed them from a distance and they confessed themselves to be strangers on the earth now look at verses 14 to 16 though Abraham was grateful for the Earthly promises what was it that Abraham was really looking toward what’s that Eric Homeland that’s right a a true home a better country a Heavenly country the country where God dwells and this is a critical point from the writer of Hebrews why did Abraham obey God he had Faith what motivated his faith Promises of Earthly blessing no it cannot be merely that because he never received them and therefore he would have abandoned God so what motivated Abraham then it was the sweet Prospect of going to God’s country God’s City or to say it another way the most exciting part of the promise Abraham gets in Genesis 12 is the one making the promise God has revealed himself to me he has set his favor upon me he has opened up a relationship with me I can know this God and one day I will be with him God did promise Abram great Earthly blessings but Abram saw by faith that there was greater treasure ahead and this ought to be very instructive for us let us apply personally the exhortation of Hebrews 11 to our ourselves especially as we keep Abraham in mind are you like Abraham would you like to be are you afraid to leave the familiar country afraid to leave the family that you know afraid to be apart from the world and have the world’s hostility directed towards you do you see the better country that lies before you the place where the God of all joy dwells Colossians 3 Colossians 3 1:5 says this therefore if you have been raised up with Christ keep seeking the things above where Christ is seated at the right hand of God sit your mind on the things above not on the things that are on Earth for you have died and your life is hidden with Christ and God when Christ who is our life is revealed then you also will be revealed with him in glory therefore consider the members of your Earthly body as dead immorality impurity passion evil desire and greed which amounts to idolatry again more questions for you to think on do you seek the things above as Abram ultimately did is your mind set on things above on Christ on what things of the world have you set your mind have they become where you place your hope and joy if you to embrace the lifestyle of Abram or one of these other god- inheriting Heroes of Faith becoming a pilgrim and stranger on the earth what would have to change in your life and now one of the things that I’ve been really thinking about in part of this lesson is the uncertainty that lay before Abraham or Abram that’s one of the hardest things to deal with in life right even if you know the promises of God the fact that you don’t see them and you don’t know how things are going to turn out or when things are going to change or if they’re going to change that is a great testing of the soul but God has given you and given me just like he did Abraham his promises and ultimately his promise that he’s rep preparing a better country for us and he’s going to bring us there as Jerry Bridges mentioned in the trust in God book life is like we walk with a curtain before us that just gradually recedes as we move forward we can’t really see what’s on the other side of that curtain that is the way that life is we have to accept that but we can remember the God who is with us and guiding us all the way he will not fail to bring us exactly where we need to go and ultimately that is to himself as we Face uncertainty just like Abraham did we can obey God we can trust God but we can go to the place that he has to show us even if he’s only going to show us the way little by little truly Heaven mindedness eternity mindedness it ought to set us apart from the people in the world God has shown us that there is another country a better one where he is so gratitude must not be have as much fun as you can until it’s all over but instead prepare for the happiness that awaits us and welcome it now lay up Treasures in Heaven not on Earth pursue Deeds that will result in your joy when Jesus judges all your works not that which will simply burn up believe God that the happiest life lived is the one given up for Christ’s sake and for the gospel and the worst life lived is the one that sought to squeeze every ounce of happiness from the world and its passing Pleasures Abram understood this which is why he obeyed though he slipped at times as we’ll see he grew in his understanding just as we do but he he did have that fundamental conviction that we also ought to have the Heavenly country was the one really to get excited about well today we’ve seen God gracious call to Abram and Abram’s response by faith that looked beyond even the Earthly Promises to the goodness of God himself let’s now proceed to the last step of our method we have observe interpret what’s step number three apply application where we ask ourselves how does it work the scriptures are always meant to work out in a relevant and transforming way in our lives the question is how you want to think on that in the application Step In Truth we’ve already been talking about application a little bit I’ve been pointing out to you some application from this passage but let’s look at a few more questions before we conclude our lesson we know that God has promised to reward those who place their faith in him when can we expect to receive those rewards return When Christ returns is that the only time in a sense what you said about Abraham before was that God himself was the reward there’s a sense in which we can experience that now I think of First Peter 1 when it talks about that although we do not see him we love him and experience his presence yeah that’s right so this is an answer that kind of has two answers that don’t really or this is a question that has two answers that don’t really contradict so there is it is true that in some ways we experience the reward now even yes sometimes by God bringing about blessing in our circumstances to walk in the Lord’s way is the path of blessing But ultimately as as Mark said the essence of our reward is God we will experience the fullness of that reward only when we see Christ but we taste it in a way that is full even now because we have Christ in us we have god with us and we get to know and enjoy him as we soour through the world so it’s an already and not yet when we talk about the reward of God and believe me we must be motivated by the reward of God because that’s fundamental to Faith what does Hebrews say that going back to the passage so I don’t misquote it Hebrews 11:6 without faith it is impossible to please him for he who comes to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of those who seek Him ultimately the reward of himself next question have you ever heard the expression you are so Heavenly minded that you are no earthly good is this a biblically grounded idea in light of what we’ve been studying today no why not we must be mind we must first see the things around us we must first see the the things that is happening around us and we said no this is only for time but then we look at the Heavenly things which will be Eternal so it’s it’s not a say I’m you’re too Heavenly minded you have to first see our surrounding and live in our surrounding only to and to please him then we can place our faith and that Heavenly promise that he has given to us yeah I think you you hit the essence of a Glenda we are commanded in the scriptures to be Heavenly minded so there’s there’s a very important part of the answer but that actually does have practical outworkings in the world now uh Danny I think I saw your hand as well did you want to say something Colossians okay yeah so Danny was going to quote Colossians again which says you need to put your mind on things above Mark you were going to say something yeah in reinforcement to what nenda said in Romans 8:24 that it says the hope that is seen is not hope but if we hope for what we do not see with perseverance we wait eagerly for it so it’s meant to the not seeeing is actually meant to fuel our perseverance in this life yeah so the not seeing the having faith and and not seeing the full outcome of it it yet that is actually a motivation for perseverance in this world that maybe a simple way to answer this question is those who blame Heavenly mindedness for lack of usefulness in the world they don’t really understand what Heavenly mindedness is or maybe the person doesn’t who seems to be acting in a Heavenly minded way if you are Heavenly minded you are actually going to walk wisely and obediently in the world if you aren’t doing that if you’re not being an ambassador for Christ if you’re not living in a in a loving and and spiritually productive way on the earth you haven’t really become Heavenly minded you don’t really understand uh the scriptures or your lord the way that you ought to that’s where so many supposedly spiritually minded people have gotten off course in the past where they just want to withdraw from the world now if you really want to draw closer to Christ it actually means being in the world not of the world that you are serving the lord in the world though even though you are not living the way that the world does one other question speaking of the world how does the world react to the idea of storing up Treasures in Heaven rather than seeking to build fortunes and seek Pleasures here on the earth generally they think that’s foolish especially in our culture that’s silly that’s wishful thinking why not pay attention to your feelings acknowledge reality for what it is it’s all over after you die you could only you should only focus on what you can gain in experience now the people of the world are often confused or even offended that we don’t do as they do but this should not surprise us because Jesus and the apostles told us that’s exactly the way it’s going to be I think of 1 Peter 41:5 1 Peter 41:5 I can’t read the whole thing but basically it the first part talks about arming yourself to suffer having given up the pursuit of the course of the Gentiles which you previously walked in and received no Prophet then it says in Verses 4 and 5 in all this they the Gentiles with whom you formerly caroused they are surprised that you do not run with them into the same excess of dissipation and they malign you but they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead we should be ready for this if we adopt the Abraham mindset which is really the mindset of Christ and all the people of faith we are not living for this world we’re living for the world to come the world is not going to understand this they’re going to ridicule this they’re going to be offended by this and they’re going to say no no no give up you’re too weird you’re you you got too far into that religion thing come back with us they don’t understand but they will give an account just as we will to him who will judge the living and the dead so let’s expect that let’s arm ourselves to suffer with perseverance for the sake of the reward that is coming after and the reward that we experience in part now by faith in Christ all right those are my questions couple minutes left comments or questions on today’s lesson Arthur yeah away yeah I I just wanted to um bring out the fact that you know when you think about any story know this being God’s story um when we talk about uh what it is we should be looking for we need to go back to Genesis and remember when God put Adam in even Genesis the Tree of Life as opposed to the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil we are in a time where the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil has an impact on each and every one of our Lives we haven’t really experienced what it’s like in a world where the Tree of Life in other words Jesus talked about eternal life that God gave him Authority it’s in I forgot which verse in the New Testament which says God has given authority over all people um to give eternal life to those um who trust and kind of adding to that that trust in God so it’s eternal life and what is eternal life to know God and to know Jesus and you can only do that um in the uh I I in this setting that God originally meant for man to live in and that setting is without evil in the world so um that’s what I look forward to um as a Christian when um when we will be in the presence of God and you know have we have eternal life now but yet we wait for its fulfillment yeah Arthur just to comment on your comment the idea that we can have joy in the Lord now yet we have no idea the heights of joy that are coming in the future in a world without sin in a world where we dwell visibly with Christ psalm 16 says that at God’s right hand our Pleasures forever more I sometimes remind myself when I see some nice thing in this world passing away like oh you know this this person is getting old and I can’t see them anymore or or this person just passed away or um the story is over and there’s no not going to be able to enjoy that anymore it’s like all of this is just little pictures of it’s going to be so much better later all the things that you’re like oh I’m sorry that ended God says wait till you see what I’ve got coming for you those those Joys won’t end and it’ll be at a much higher level because then we will know Christ in a way that we’ve never known him before and we will dwell in his new heavens and new earth one other comment or question yeah Cheryl so in response to you are so Heavenly minded that you’re no earthly good you know I was thinking about when when people were saying in the first century we’re looking for the kingdom we’re waiting for the kingdom and Jesus says it is here because he was there and and I think that now that we are indwell with his spirit so the kingdom really is here so granted like we don’t have the capacity because we’re still in our sinful flesh to completely like you said experience it I do think that probably we don’t live as if the kingdom has been deposited within us enough so it’s almost like we’re not that Heavenly minded if we keep thinking we have to wait mhm you know and we are waiting but you know it’s actually here yeah and I think if we live with that reality it’ll help us to endure you know yeah I that’s a good point you make Cheryl and it makes me think also of Jesus words in John which we’ve been studying over the last year where he says I give them eternal life presently not I will give them eternal life but I give it to them now you don’t have to wait until the the kingdom arrives to a sense enjoy the kingdom and be a part of the Kingdom you don’t have to uh wait until the coming of Christ to enjoy Christ you already have him and you uh amazingly by the spirit you are in Union with him and if as you say if we if we can learn to appreciate that more and more not only will that greatly affect our joy and peace but it will be part of enabling us to walk in Greater Holiness with the Lord now that’s this reality is not like a a switch that you flip where it’s like I’m totally not enjoying the kingdom or believing that I have Jesus Christ and now I totally do and everything’s easy it’s something that we grow in and that’s what we’re going to see with these Patriarchs Abraham Isaac Jacob they show amazing feats of Faith but they also show amazing feats of doubt and sin but God grows each one of them and by the time you get to the end of their lives you’re like wow what H what has God done how he brought them so far and guess what he’s doing that with us too and that’s what we pray for Lord help me be more like you I’m still going to sin and Lord I’m still going to repent and I’m still seek you more but Lord I know that the work that you’ve begun you’re not done with yet you’re going to continue to do it thank you God that you’re never going to leave me or forsake me bring me all the way until you bring me into your heavenly Kingdom that’s a good place to end our lesson let me close in a word of prayer next time we’ve got hostway who’s going to lead us in Genesis 13 with Abram and lot and look at how they end up splitting up all right let me pray Lord thank you for this time thank you for the encouragement of your scriptures I pray Lord that we would live with the right grasp of already and not yet so that we may enjoy you now and seek greater Holiness until you come but look with expectation and joy in the fullness that is to be Unleashed when you bring about your new heavens and new earth and you bring us into it in Jesus name amen thank you everyone

  • Lesson 11: Confusion: Dispersion at Babel

    Lesson 11: Confusion: Dispersion at Babel

    In this final lesson of The Consequences of Sin series, Pastor Dave Capoccia examines Genesis 11:1-9, the account of humanity’s language confusion at and people group dispersion from ancient Babel. After reading and making basic observations of the text, Pastor Dave seeks to answer the following interpretation questions: What was the great sin/what were the great sins of Babel? How and why did humanity scatter from Babel? When did this scattering take place? And what extra-biblical evidence exists affirming that this historical event related in the Bible genuinely happened?

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    let us make man in our image but even more locally God says come let us go down if you look back at verses 3 and verse four man was using that same phrase come let us make bricks come let us build ourselves a city so you have man doing this on the one side but God doing it on the other side there is an implicit reference to the Trinity here though obviously that’s not explicit you couldn’t build the doctrine of the Trinity on this verse but it fits with what the rest of the scriptures reveal and we see that God’s United purpose in the godhead it proves stronger than man’s United purpose and what are the results of God’s confusing man’s language according to the passage notice we have three the people scatter they stop building the city and the place receives a name Babel now why is it called Babel the text says because there God confused the languages and like we see many times in the Old Testament if a name is given along with an explanation for the name you can bet that name has a meaning that does have something to do with that explanation and indeed the name Babel is associated with the Primitive Hebrew verb balal which means to mix to confound or to overflow thus the name Babel sounds like the Hebrew word for confusion and the our author Moses notes the appropriateness of the name Babel but that may not be why the people who are building the city they may have actually named that given that name for a different reason every time the name oh I should say this first every time the name Babylon appears in your Bibles by the way Old Testament Hebrew whenever baby appears in the Old Testament it’s actually the same word so though your English translation will probably use Babylon instead of Babel when you get to passages in Jeremiah and elsewhere it’s actually the same word that we see here in Genesis 11 so that means that the Hebrews would have connected that ancient city and Tower with a later City and kingdoms of the same name and this probably has something to do why in the Old Testament and the New Testament human Le Rebellion is often epitomized summarized under the term Babylon now to get back to what I was going to say before is interesting to note that in Acadian which is an ancient Babylonian language Babalu means gate of God we actually get the name Babylon in English from the Greeks who probably transliterated the plural of the Acadian term Babylon gate of the Gods as the name for the city so what we might be seeing here is that the Builders of the city called it Babel because they thought this would be the Gate of God but but what God did at Babel made another term Associated term more appropriate for understanding what this city is about it’s not really the Gate of God it’s confusion that’s what Babel is all about all right now that we’ve taken some time to observe let’s ask some interpretation questions next slide please and you can hit the first one what is the root sin on display In this passage obviously it must be Pride it’s almost childish what we see man Express here let’s make for ourselves a name let’s show how great we are let’s build a monument to us let’s cause all people who are to come and even God and the angels in heaven to Behold our Glory based on what we build we maybe Weak by ourselves or weak in small groups but look how Mighty we are when we all work together each of us excelling in different areas but all United in one purpose let us make our mark on the universe let all creation see our great City with its great tower and thus give us Glory this is very unlike other great building projects in the scriptures right at least in Israel we see David and Solomon going about the building of the temple they’re not saying this is going to glorify me everybody’s going to see how great of a builder or how great of a king I am rather they are looking for the Lord’s honor that was the whole impetus of David even wanting to build a temple he says how can I dwell in what seems like a great house and God’s dwelling is still a tent and these also they recognize that whatever skill power or Glory they had was not innate to them it was given to them from God as a gift what a difference in these ancient Builders at Babylon and these were let’s face it our forefathers the very descendants of shamam and japheth they did not seek to give God his due but they sought really to steal his glory and how silly because God so easily unravels it all in a sense it’s like God says Where where’s your great power oh man where’s your wisdom where’s your glory all he had to do was make one declaration and you cannot even understand each other anymore this is because God will not give his rightly deserved glory to another yet pride is the continual sin of man is it not and it is a sin that even we are tempted to very often our sinful Hearts the sinful flesh that is still with with us even though God has made us into New Creations the sinful flesh craves for our intrinsic value to be in affirmed that which is innate to us that which we have made for ourselves we want other people to see how much we deserve love respect wealth power and we get depressed or we get angry when we are not affirmed in that way we can even get angry God for giving us or rather for not giving us what we think we deserve we can fall into self-pity woe is me I’m so great but I’m not being treated very greatly it’s disturbing to note from the scriptures that we can even use spirituality as a way to further our own Pride as a way to slake our lust for self-exaltation isn’t this what was happening in the Corinthian Church even with the spiritual gift that God had given the church for the church’s whole edification people were doing it using them to exalt themselves everyone look at me look at my gifts this was the same problem in Judaism as it had formed in Jesus day the Pharisees they would literally take trumpets and announce their giving they’d go on the street corners to pray so that everybody could see how holy they were how good they were this is very different from a true Christian’s attitude which is not to get everyone to look at us but everyone to look at God even through our good works we say this is what God has accomplished in me he gets all the glory please don’t look at me look at God even God’s gospel can be twisted we see this today don’t we God’s gospel can be twisted mutated in a way that Strokes man’s Pride you are so great oh person God he’s so enamored with you he wants to save you he wants to bless you he wants to know you it’s cuz you’re so great but of course the biblical reality is not focused that way but the opposite way God is so great here’s the good news God is so great look at what he’s done you ought to be enamored with him you ought to seek Him in faith and obedience and with full gratitude the gospel is not that God is so enamored with you and God just wants to fulfill all your dreams rather that God says you you can have a relationship with me and I’ll give you what’s truly fulfilling so it’s not like we can look at this passage and be like wow these people were so proud what was wrong with them no that same temptation to Pride is with us today and across the world bondage to Pride is evident everywhere takes many different forms but the rebellion of Babel is still going on in different ways so clearly Pride was one of the great sins of Babel but was there another sin taking place here is there Disobedience to God by refusing to scatter across all the Earth after all that is part of the reasoning that the builders at Babel Express as to why they should complete their project lest we be scattered across the Earth is this another sin that’s happening here how many say yes and they point back to the commands given to Noah in Genesis chter 9 Genesis 9:1 and God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them be fruitful and multiply and fill the Earth Genesis 9:7 as for you be fruitful and multiply populate the Earth abundantly and multiply in it many have come to this conclusion however I hesitate to agree with this line of reasoning for a few reasons first in the commands to Noah you may notice that the filling of the earth is always attached to doing what children that’s right having children multiplying actually in these verses Genesis 91 97 God never specifically commands for people to spread out rather it is assumed that as they have more children they will spread out because they’re going to need more room they’re going to want more room they’re going to be like Abram and lot who said to one another this land can’t sustain his both let’s separate second if God was commanding them to artificially spread out how would the people know when there were too many people in one area it’s not as God has established a certain quota system at least not that we’re aware of in which he says Whoa a thousand people’s way too much for this area some of you need to move along how would the people know how much is too much third one could argue that the commands given to Noah regarding multiplication and filling they are like the commands given to Adam and are actually blessings rather than commands I use this analogy before but it’s like when we say have a happy birthday we’re not commanding people in such a phrase to have a happy birthday or else we’re expressing well- wishes and even a blessing on that other person it’s not insignificant that Genesis 9:1 begins with and God blessed Noah and said be fruitful and multiply and this is the same thing we see by the way in Genesis 1 Genesis 1:22 and Genesis 128 where God is commanding animals and man to multiply it says God blessed them and said this so I hesitate a little bit to say oh they didn’t spread out so that’s why this judgment Came Upon them on the other hand I am sympathetic to the notion that God from the beginning is intent on establishing his rule over all the universe over all the Earth and part of this involves setting up his image everywhere and who is made in God’s image who exists as God image God’s IM image mankind man was made in the image of God we are on a sense like little statues of the great king being put everywhere saying oh this is under that King’s Dominion as well even though man’s as God’s image was marred by the Fall this was God’s original foundational intent and you could say that even if the statements to Noah and Adam are blessings they are also commands similar to commands like rejoice in the wife of your youth Proverbs 5 that’s a blessed command to be sure but it’s still a command more significant to my thinking is that every respectable commentator that I’ve consulted on this passage concludes oh and this is people commentators from the past as well as modern commentators they all conclude that man was disobeying God’s command to fill the Earth that yes there is a sin of Pride but man was also disband God’s command to fill the earth now the majority of you is not necessarily automatically right but if you’re opposing the majority of you especially from people that are otherwise faithful and worthy of respect that should give you pause so I’m not going to press my my hesitation on this it may indeed be that refusing to fill the Earth was also a sin for which the people of Babel were judged but if that is the case I don’t believe that is the main sin here the main sin is pride perhaps also the refusal to spread out and really it is pride that ultimately causes the people to not want to spread out to even fear spreading out because scattering would diminish the power and self-sufficiency and consequently the glory of the people these men and women were all about exalting themselves and what they can do but if people split from one another if they spread out if they’re not all in the same area well maybe don’t have all the skills Maybe you don’t have that skilled metal worker who can make statues for the city or for the Tower or you don’t have that excellent scribe who can write all the city’s laws or commemorate what the city has accomplished sticking together building a city even building a high tower these are not sinful acts in themselves it was the reason for which man was seeking to do these things that is the main issue man was doing this all to glorify himself and not God and God chose not to leave man unchecked in this effort as a judgment you may note the irony here God gave sinful man the very thing that man feared let’s build our say ourselves a city and a tower make ourselves a great name lest we be scattered well God made it so they didn’t have a great name he humbled them he humiliated them and he scattered them and how did he do this he took away the source of Man’s power took away man’s unity and he spread one he spread people out from one another now how exactly did that work why would everybody suddenly move away from one another based on what God did okay they couldn’t speak the same language and when a group of people don’t speak the same language as other groups of people what do they tend to do well there’s confusion what else they gravitate toward those they understand that’s right they they tend to separate and we see this in a small way in our in our own country right people who speak a certain language they they want to gravitate together and so they form little communities where they all speak that language and this is why you have like Little Italy or um yeah chat town in various cities or towns people who speak the same language want to stick together and they they don’t stay with the people who don’t speak that language especially if they can’t understand it at all not only can it be frustrating and awkward to try and communicate with someone who doesn’t know your language it can also be let’s face it dangerous imagine if a bunch of people with weapons began to shout at you in another language you have no idea what they said they leave do you want to stay near them no you be like I’m going to put some space between me and them I don’t know what they’re about but they’ve got weapons and I think they just threatened me so people therefore who spoke the same language after Babel and that may have been a group as small as a single family they separated from those who didn’t speak that language and they moved into another area and as these families who all spoke the same language or family as they moved into a new area and had descendants well those descendants eventually spread out as well and as the Generations past people moved further and further apart and consequently their languages changed some languages mixed with other languages other languages simplified or acquired new characteristics therefore as this spreading out process continued new people groups were continually forming with new languages and with those things especially over time new and separate ways of thinking separate Customs even separate stories and legends what emerges from these splitting families and splitting people groups is ultimately whole separate cultures and civilizations you can hit the next bullet point I think and the next one too consider the implications of this biblical truth the confusion of Babel means that all of the world civilizations even the most ancient ones that we can think of they do not go back further than Babel and based on the timeline that we’re going to see in a little bit that means they do not go back further than BC nothing from pre flood man appears to have survived and based on what we would think about the event being volcanic and tectonic it couldn’t have survived the only evidence therefore we see of civilization would be after man’s languages were separated and cultures different cultures emerged from babyl now to this assertion someone especially a secular historian might say something like and you can hit the next slide but we know that the pyramids in Egypt were built in 2600 BC that would be more than 150 years before Babel and that’s only when the pyramids were built the Egyptian civilization was founded for many centuries before that we we know this so what you’re saying about baby cannot be true well how do we react to such a statement do we say oh I guess you’re right uh let me see if I can reinterpret the timeline given in Genesis so it can conform to what you found is that what we say many Christians do many Christian leaders do take that position but I would argue as you’ve been seeing throughout this course that we do not simply acque yes in this way but rather we fall back on a Biblical worldview start with the scriptures stay with the bible let what the scripture says help you assess the assertions made by historians and scientists especially the things that are plain in the Bible you can hit the next bullet remember none of us were there in the past and we do not have access to all the past data we must interpret the past using assumptions and as we’ have seen when you don’t start with the Bible in your interpretation of the past you’re going to use the wrong assumptions Therefore your interpretation is going to be skewed we must stand on what is plain in the Bible and when we do it’s actually not that hard to explain what otherwise appear to be historical discre discrepancies in the case of Egypt and the dating of the pyramids or the dating of that Civilization today’s historians largely rely or partly rely on ancient Egyptian historians who wrote about their own civilization to establish the timeline of Egypt’s history but those ancient Egyptian historians they probably exaggerated the ancientness of their civilization and the length of its various dynasties let me before I tell you why why do you think that would bear okay Steve says no different than today to change the narrative somebody else was saying something to make themselves seem super great yeah to make themselves look better I mean if you say oh uh our country was established last year consider that versus our country has existed for 2,000 years which seems more iive the second one right or okay this guy usurped the throne and he’s only Reed for a year versus this guy has reigned for 200 years which one’s going to sound more impressive the one that has the longer years the one that seems like it’s established for longer actually that makes me think you know one of the reasons why the Romans respected the Jews much more than the Christians is because the Jews had a much what seemed to them a much more ancient religion oh this they’ve been practicing this for hundreds of years I mean they’re totally wacko but at least it’s old these Christians this is new whatever they’re about that can’t be good so this was very much a feeling of ancient times that if you have something that’s very old that makes you more impressive that makes you more legitimate so there’ be a very simple reason why an Egyptian historian Egyptian chronicler might exaggerate how old the Empire was or how long a certain ruler of that Empire was it was quite common for people in ancient days to claim that their civilization had been around for tens of thousands of years and that their first kings were actually demigods who ruled for more than a thousand years each now we don’t simply accept those claims do we now to be sure and we got to be sympathetic to even secular historians it’s difficult to navigate through the biases of different historians and and chroniclers of the past is this guy being accurate or is he being exaggerating how much can I trust him that’s not always easy to figure out but we have something that should greatly help us the Bible unlike the histories written by Mere Men the Bible is always trustworthy and as Jesus says it cannot be broken so when some secular archaeologist scientist or historian wants to say oh oh whoa we know that the Bible’s historical details are not true based on these other things remember that they are interpreting history according to anti-biblical assumptions which are ultimately faulty assumptions they will be inclined to disbelieve the Bible and believe versions of history that fit in their own worldview especially today an evolutionary modernist worldview which is that man advances socially politically economically theologically gradually slowly over time and so saying that these other civiliz they they emerged at these different times that the Babel didn’t really happen the flood really didn’t really happen that fits with what man wants to believe today even though the Bible’s historical claims have been Vindicated Time and Time Again by different archaeological discoveries that’s generally not the way that most historians and archaeologists will view the record of the scriptures to sum up what I’m saying here don’t miss this main point the process actually no to get back to my original Point that’s what I wanted to say so don’t miss what I’m saying about a Biblical worldview here this is something we’ve talked about before but next slide to get back to my original point the process we see starting at Babel and playing out in the rest of History it is the it is the continual mixture and separation of cultures languages and people groups you can hit the next bullet what we see beginning at Babel is something that would continue to play out in history and really is still playing out today and there’s an interesting effect of this separation of peoples one of the effects is that over time these people groups would begin to look different from one another each people group would begin to acquire distinct physical characteristics like hair color skin tone and facial structure how can that be well maybe you already know there actually was in the original series that we did with Answers in Genesis there’s a little paired lesson that goes with this which I’ll give you the information about the link to we don’t have time to go through it before the summer starts you can hit the next slide if you want more information as to how precisely the people groups came to look different from one another and how the Bible affirms repeatedly that despite the way that we do look different from one another even today the Bible affirms repeatedly that we are all One race there’s only one race the human race and please look up this lesson that I did back in 2019 this was kind of like a a paired lesson with our examination on Babel One race the human race and you can find that at the media section of our church website calvary.org I think it’s very interesting I think you’ll find it edifying so please check that out One race the human race but we’re going to have to move on from that for now next slide please now can we get a good idea of when this separation at Babel took place actually yes because of the details that Moses gives us in the Book of Genesis please take your Bibles and turn back to Genesis 10 for a second I want to show you something Genesis 10: 21-2 this is a section that describes some of shem’s descendants remember Noah has three sons shemam and japheth we hear a little bit about their descendants here and we’re focusing in on what’s said about shem’s descendants in verses 21 to 25 also to Shem the father of all the children of Eber and the older brother of japheth children were born the sons of Shem were Elum and Asher and our pakad and lud and Aram the sons of Aram were o and hul and Geth and mash AR pakad became the father of Sheila and Sheila became the father of Eber two sons were born to Eber the name of the one was PG for in his days the Earth was divided and his brother’s name was Joan now one of the Delights about reading a genealogy in the Bible is that you think it’s totally boring and there’s nothing to be gleaned or interesting about it and then there’s a a little detail that just thrown in there and you’re like what wh what was that all about and we see one of those here in this little section of genealogy when he mentions PG whose name means division you can hit the next bullet he says for in his days the Earth was divided in his days the Earth was divided what does this mean now some think oh this is a reference to how the continents were divided in ancient times in his days the continents were divided there’s good reason to think that originally it was all one continent however this is probably not the interpretation we should take because based on what we understand about science today major tectonic movements like the moving of consonant it probably would have flooded the world therefore the separation of continents makes much more sense that’s happening during Noah’s flood rather than some time afterwards of course the secular view is that the continents moved very very very very slowly over time over millions of years but it could be accomplished and makes more sense if it happened quickly in a catastrophic event so probably not referring to the division of continents with this phrase with pel so what could it be referring to what other division might have taken place in the days of pel well the only other major Division and happens to be the one described in the very next chapter is the division of the peoples at Babel as a result of having their languages confused this most likely is what this phrase in Genesis 10 is referring to in his days in the days of pel the Earth was divided because the languages were changed and people spread out from one another now that’s significant because that tells us about the flood I mean the Babel’s timing according to these verses how many generations after Shem Noah’s son is pel when we count them up actually more than two 14 oh no no not 14 it’s actually just four five if you count Shem but what we’re trying to say after Shem so you have AR pakad Sheila Eber and pel let me just double check that then I’m not giving you crazy things here so Shem had Elum he gave various Sons but our P shad is one of them and then we hear about arad’s lineage so just four generations after Shem AR pakad Sheila Eber and Pelle this means that battle must have happened within four generations of Shem at the end of the flood by the way linguistic side note from Shem we get the terms Semitic and Semite and from Eber we get what term Hebrew both of these become eventually designators for the people of Israel as they even are somewhat today okay so Genesis 10 establishes that Babel takes place in pel’s days four generations from Shem but we can actually get even a clearer date as to how long that was when we if you’ll turn back to Genesis 11 for a second after the account of Babel Moses goes more in depth into shem’s line and if you look in the latter part of Genesis 11 verses 10- 16 we see the five generations of Shem to pel once again and for the sake of time we won’t read this but just glancing at it verses 10 to 16 how could you use the information here to determine how many years after the flood went by before battle took place exact so Magna points out we get in this genealogy a record of how many years each descendant was alive before he had that next particular descendant and so if you want to know how long it was until the days of pel and the event at Babel will just add up the years of those intervening descendants so it was 2 years after the flood that Shem had his particular son and then it was 35 years and then 30 years and then 34 years add them all up you get about 110 years so there’s a little bit of a question of how do you how do you calculate 2 years after the flood is that counting the days of the flood or is that is that after the flood finished so I’m going to say about 110 years so amazingly we can say Babel took place around 110 years after the flood according to the record this chronog genealogy in Genesis 11 but was it exactly 110 years because it says in his days the Earth was divided that means it only happened sometime during his life not necessarily right when he was born or right before he was born but then again his name is division so presumably the division happened somewhat early in his life because otherwise why would ebra have named him division it’s not like the sun is 30 years old the Earth is dividing he’s like I’m going to change your name that wouldn’t really seem to make much sense so it would appear to be in the early days of pel maybe right when he was born right before he was born or right after he was born the Earth was divided and thus his name became appropriate division for describing that event so all this to say we see that Moses we see once again really that Moses and God through him saw fit to give us and Israel specific time details regarding these important ancient events so that they the Israelites and we today can know yes even know with confidence when these key events took place in the history of Earth and how our history connects with it this isn’t by God’s spirit when you when you go through the Torah it’s not like oh yeah this happened sometime in the past and these were the the divisions between those dates no you can take what’s given here connect it with what the Bible says elsewhere about the timeline of history and then you connect it with some of the things we know outside the Bible and we can say this is when it took place or it was around this time this is not some disconnected past it fits right in with where we are today so if this took place around 2240 BC then it’s been about 4,200 years since Babel and we see the outworking of what took place there now even in our modern world indeed even though this event was Ancient Memories of Babel are evident still all over the world first of all there’s the tower next slide if the Tower of Babel was indeed a zigurat or a step pyramid structure it’s intriguing to note that we see similar structures all over the world from ancient cultures these are from South America southeast Asia Egypt and Mesopotamia it’s also interesting to note that many of these if not all of these we’re not entirely sure many of these were used in the same way as the ziggurats of Babylon were used these were constructed as religious structures even ones that it was thought you could meet with the gods or God at the top of it why this consistency with the record of Babel now you could say well maybe this structure was just easier to build and that’s why everybody ended up using it they’re like where are we going to meet with god well out a high place well where are we going to get a high place let’s build it and let’s build it this way okay that’s possible it is true that sometimes people in different places all come up with the same solution because it’s the only one that makes sense has a limited number of options for deciding certain things so maybe that’s what we’re seeing here or maybe because the first people groups on Earth would have carried with them memories of the event at Babel maybe there is remembrance of that ancient construction what they had tried to accomplish and then when people spread out they did a smaller version of it and that’s why we see some of these similar structures certainly it’s not surprising that we see these things in other places based on what we read in the scriptures furthermore like with the great flood we also find Legends around the world involving the splitting of one original language in a way that’s similar to what the Bible describes I’ll give you a few of these so the kich of Guatemala they told of a time when the tribes multiplied and people left their old home for a place called tulon here they say the language changed and the people sought new homes in various parts of the world as a result of not being able to understand one another the mik tribe in northeastern India it tells of the descendants of ram who were strong men and were growing dissatisfied with Earth and aspired to conquer Heaven they began to build a tower according to One account the translation it says higher and higher Rose the building till at last the gods and demons feared lest these Giants should become Masters Of Heaven as they already were of Earth so they confounded their speech and Scattered them to the four corners of the world hence arose all the various tongues of mankind that sounds oddly familiar one more the Polynesians on the island of how said that rata and his three sons survived a great flood then here again from the translation they made an attempt to erect a building by which they could reach the sky and see the Creator God vatea but the god in Anger chased the builders away broke down the building and changed their language so that they spoke diverse tongues why do these things exist in these far-flung cultures why do these legends that sound just like the biblical account exist again a skeptic will hear these and say well this is just evidence the Bible story is a myth and it borrowed from other cultures and these other stories existed the Bible borrowed it too it’s just like these other cultures believed crazy things that we don’t believe anymore today that’s a conclusion you can make if you start with anti-biblical assumptions if you assume there’s no such thing as the Supernatural and that the Bible is not true or trustworthy but because we know by God’s grace by the revealing of God’s spirit to our hearts that the Bible is true and therefore Babel actually happened we are not surprised by this at all we would expect the memory of Babel to be taken in various cultures around the world perhaps resulting in the construction of towers similar to what the original Babel Tower would have looked like but also with the commemoration of the event that took place to change the world’s languages which is precisely what we see by the way if you’d like to hear more of these Legends connected with the Bible’s Babel account or you want to find details about the sources that I just gave to you you you can check out the article from answersingenesis.org tongue twisting Tales article is tongue twisting Tales answers genesis. org if you want to know more about that all right then so we’ve seen today that what happened 4200 years ago has affected us all pretty profoundly because of man’s prideful Rebellion we have the many different languages and people groups that we do today have you ever been frustrated that you can’t understand somebody else’s language or even if it’s somebody else in America or Britain and you say they’re using words I don’t understand or they’re using an accent that I just can’t figure out well it goes back to this ancient Rebellion we’re seeing the consequences of sin lived out in this very practical way and if we miss the Bible’s account we’re not going to understand where this came from at all let’s ask a few more questions though before we end today and we only have a little bit of time so we’ll go through this quickly next slide please and hit the first bullet point what attributes of God does this judgment of the People by confusing their language demonstrate what would you say yeah Leela As a caretaker he sees that doing something that is destructive to ourselves again protecting us from our sin yeah so you said something really interesting with the term caretaker because it seems to accompass what we think of maybe as different attributes of God on the one sense it’s his sovereignty he and and his active involvement in the world he’s not a God who spun up the clock and then disappeared no he’s like I’m paying attention what’s going on this is not good I want to do something about it and he intervened in a very obvious way and yet his intervention while in one sense it is a judgment I mean wouldn’t it be nice if we all could understand one another today and otherwis it was a mercy because he knew just as you said Lea this is not good this is not good for mankind for them to be United in prideful Rebellion against me I’m actually going to make it harder for them to unite so that it’s harder for them to come together in opposition to me it’s quite poignant and I’m sure we’re going to see this as Pastor Bobby moves along in his Revelation series that we will one day see the world United again actually two times we’re going to see the world United again but first how is the world going to become United all right when Christ comes back that’s the second one that I want to refer to there’s going to be a kind of unity there but before that Danny that’s right the Antichrist from what’s revealed in the scriptures seems to establish a one world rule or at least a Unity underneath his Rule and what does that Unity lead to it leads to apostasy it leads to Rebellion against God it leads to everyone choosing to work under Antichrist to oppose the true Christ in some ways it’s what Babel was trying to thwart what God was trying to thwart at Babel realized yet as to go back to what Glenda said it’s not as if God is against the unity of people no actually God loves unity and we as his people are commanded to be United but not in opposition to Christ but around Christ so it was a mercy that God actually thwarted man’s Unity took away the great source of Man’s power because God knew man’s sinful rebellious heart would use this against God to man’s own destruction but God we’ll talk about more in just a second God has a different purpose for his church what other attributes do we see here though we see his sovereignty we see his Mercy we see his judgment his Holiness and judgment what else imil immutability Jody right have that he is merciful he is gracious but he he will be glorified first yeah and then us saved and these are theit of it but that is old he is I don’t know ese that just above us and gives us the motivation to want to live for him because we can’t get anything right yeah so jod was explaining about God showing his character to be consistent immutable he’s what he’s already begun to reveal in the first events of Genesis he continues in that exact same character and it would go through to the end of Genesis the end of Torah throughout the Old Testament he’s the Glorious Sovereign God he’s a holy God he’s also faithful to his promises despite man’s Rebellion what had God promised I will not flood the Earth again to destroy mankind man has rebelled once again you could say well bring another flood God said I already swore I wouldn’t do that so I’m going to do something different and it was it was a merciful even though it was judgment it was also merciful because God had other promises to see realize the seed of the woman in opposition to the seed of The Serpent and one from the seed of the woman who would come and defeat the serpent so all those things are still being preserved despite this terrible Rebellion at Babel this Glory this attempt at glory snatching from God but God proves himself faithful he proves his character to be consistent obviously he shows his power by command he turns the the whole earth into chaos he reprograms each person’s brain to speak and understand a new language only God has that kind of power and we see his faithfulness we see his patience and compassion I’m sure other things too we only have about one minute so I’m sorry I have to just briefly mention two other things uh next next two bullets please as we began to lud to there is something interesting about how life in Christ interacts with the curse of Babel and that is that we return to Unity in Christ and we return to power power that’s not simply based on people who Excel and various things all coming together to work for a a common purpose but power that comes from the spirit of God himself it’s so interesting that what man was attempting to be in his own Twisted way God actually wants the church to be in a holy and beautiful way we are to be as United rather even more united than the people of Babel were because we are united in Christ and this Unity does not depend notice and this is even more glorious right this Unity does not depend on having the same language or the same culture it is in having the same Lord having that same salvation and that same love for God for his people and for those who do not yet know God our power is not based off of human intelligence and creativity it is based on the wisdom of God and his life-giving Spirit if we’ve received this how are we responding to that gift are we truly United with our Brothers and Sisters in Christ are we about the one purpose that God has left us with to work out the gospel in our own Holiness in the teaching of Jesus word in the declaration and the Commandment of other people in the world to repent are we all about that one purpose because if we are more than Babel we will exhibit the power of God this is the main reason that we are still on the earth is that we might be United about finishing the work that Jesus left us to do and this should be another motivation for our own Holiness because whatever is Unholy is going to hurt the unity and hurt the purpose that God has left us to do as I said God is not against man’s Unity he’s only against it when it is against Christ God demands Unity from us even each part working together for the advancement of all through the spirit through the teaching of Christ and through his love so our Race’s rebellious history is tragic but Christ is wondrous he indeed makes all things new he he does it in the church and we will see it realize an even Fuller way in the world to come as we hear in Revelation 79 to 12 in the future save persons from every tribe tongue and Nation will give glory to God not themselves give glory to God because he is worthy even specifically glory to Jesus Christ all right I know there were some other good comments maybe questions come share those with me afterwards or send me an email but that’s all for today and that’s all for this course thank you for your participation in our study of consequences of sin in Genesis 3:11 Sunday school is going to be taking a break for the summer we’ll be back in September with a new series it’ll get more details about that later in the summer let’s pray to end Lord God you are powerful You Are Holy you are good Lord we know what it is like to seek our own Glory we are not so different from those people of ancient Babel because we have done that through so much of our lives but God you’ve opened our eyes to the one who is truly glorious and you’ve shown us that we have no glory in ourselves we have only shame you are the Glorious one but you allow us amazingly God you exalt us to place of honor in Jesus Christ but Lord we want to be all about you and not ourselves forgive us where we are about ourselves help us to repent of that God help us to be United in seeking you and seeking your commission even here at Calvary I pray God that be a reality that grows more and more and more as we love you more and as we become more well equipped with the wisdom of your word to live out your purposes in Jesus name amen amen thank you everyone WRA yeah I was hoping so too f tell is is this

  • Lesson 10: The Ice Age

    Lesson 10: The Ice Age

    In this lesson, Pastor Dave Capoccia discusses the Ice Age. The Bible never specifically addresses any ice age, but there is evidence of a past ice age all over our world today. How does the Ice Age connect with what the Bible reveals about Noah’s flood? How does a biblically informed model of the flood explain the precise extent of glacial advance, the migration of humanity to all the continents, and the mass extinction of creatures like the woolly mammoth? And how is the biblical explanation of the Ice Age superior to the theories offered by Bible-disbelieving scientists? Pastor Dave considers these questions and more as he seeks to show how a biblical worldview helps us better understand our world and its history.

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    we’re going to get started good morning welcome to Sunday school let’s begin with a word of prayer Lord God I pray that you would bless this time and give us greater understanding for understanding your world from a Biblical world view give us confidence in your scriptures and give us awe Lord at who you are and what you’ve done in the past in Jesus name amen well today in our last lesson on the flood we’re actually going to talk about the Ice Age now you may wonder what does the Ice Age have to do with the flood or even the Bible for that matter it’s true the Bible doesn’t talk specifically about the ice age or an ice age but as we’ve seen over the last three or four lessons the Bible clearly does describe a historical worldwide flood and we’re going to see today how the Ice Age and the flood are intimately connected format of today’s class is going to be a little different than usual going to be mostly listening to a lecture from Michael oard Michael oard is a retired meteorologist who has worked with Answers in Genesis since 2001 and the lecture it’s a series of excerpts from a lecture but in the lecture that we’re going to watch Ard articulates why creationist scientists do believe in an ice age and how the Ice Age ties in to The Genesis Flood now I hope you’ve had your coffee this morning or an equivalent to it because as we look at this lecture the information comes kind of fast he also uses oard uses a fair bit of scientific terminology but don’t worry at the end of our listening to the lecture I will streamline and recap the information that award presents understand that the goal of today’s class is not to answer every scientific question related to the Ice Age rather the goal is to give us all a basic understanding of the Ice Age and how it ties into the Bible and we’ll see the ice age to is part of the common history that all of us as humans share also remember that what we’re talking about today is Theory it comes from a fallible interpretation of data fallible meaning not necessarily error free so do not treate do not treat these creationist scientific theories as scripture they are not these theories are not inherent these models of the is age and of the flood they have been revised since they were created and these models will continue to be revised or even exchanged altogether for other models as more scientific discoveries are made that being said these biblically based models are useful for investigating various scientific questions that people have today including why are there ancient Rock paintings of fish in the Sahara Desert how did man and animals get from the Middle East to North America After the flood in Babel and why did animals like the woolly mammoth and the saber-tooth tiger disappear furthermore even though many of us are not scientists we nevertheless continually encounter scientific claims from our media and from our education system today scientists claimed that there were multiple ice ages in our prehistoric past that lasted for thousands of years what are we to make of that we want to be able to skillfully assess such scientific claims and determine whether these claims are empty or well-founded therefore today’s lesson on the ice H should prove useful to you and here is our outline for today’s lesson first we’ll listen to the video presentation second we’ll review the arguments presented by Michael oard in that presentation and then third we’ll briefly compare ard’s arguments with current secular thought regarding the Ice Age but before we go into the video we should actually Define what an ice age is what is an ice age can anyone tell me Magna perod exe a period of extreme cold okay any other answers or guesses a body of water formed together okay body of water Frozen together in one place Mark you’re going to say something I I think it’s when maybe the majority or of the Earth is covered with I majority or much of the Earth is covered with ice I’m I’m glad you gave me these answers because when you hear the term Ice Age it sounds like it’s really dramatic like this is a crazy extreme thing perhaps a completely frozen planet or a blizzard all over the Earth but an Ice Age need not be that drastic actually an ice age is simply a period of time with extensive glaciation that is substantially more land covered by Ice than normal and Ice AG to say that again it’s just a period of time with substantially more land covered by Ice than normal now today there are a few places that you can go where you can see land that is permanently covered by ice places in the Arctic places in the Antarctic so Greenland Antarctica there’s permanent ice there about 12% of the earth’s land mass today is permanently covered by Ice an Ice Age then represents a time where ice coverage is substantially more than 12% so the question is was there an ice age in our past how bad was it can we explain how it happened what EV what evidence is there to support such an explanation this is where we now want to listen to our video so we’re hearing now from retired meteorologist Michael Ard this series of excerpts from one of his lectures it’s about 28 minutes as you listen don’t worry so much about the technical details focus more on the broad Concepts and like I said I will recap the information afterwards all right we are ready to play our video give your attention ice AG well when you examine the surficial sediments the sediments that are on the surface of the Earth in presently glaciated areas you see a number of features now this is the beautiful Athabasca Glacier in the Canadian Rockies that has been receding this sign right there that’s where it was in 1890 and yet it has been receding and when it leaves behind you can examine what an ice does it leaves behind rocks of all sizes within usually sand and silt kind of in a finer grain Matrix it leaves behind inm Marines and lateral Marines inm Marines and lateral Marines are formed when the glacier pushes out material ahead of it and as it’s along the side it’s called a lateral Marine when it’s in the front it’s called a terminal inm Marine speaking of this I can’t help but make a comment on global warming yes all glaciers of the world have been receding or mostly all and yes it is true there has been global warming and I believe it is true that man has been a cause of it but I believe that nature is part of it too because between 1350 and 1850 we had the little ice age where all the glaciers in the world Advanced now the we’re in the opposite fluctuation where they’re receding so I think this is partly due to a little effects of the sunshine and less volcanic ash in the stratosphere why we’re getting some of the global warming there’s a beautiful inm Marine very sharp looking made not too long ago probably made about 18 1990 another feature You observe around glaciated areas is scratch Bedrock as the glacier moves over Bedrock it has rocks in the bottom of it and those rocks on the bottom scratch the Bedrock so it’s typical to see stri stried uh B Bedrock or pavement as they call this also some of the Rocks themselves get scratched and a lot of times they get scratched in different directions here’s a one set going that way and there’s another set going this way like this and it’s probably because the rock turn a little bit in the ice ice is more plastic and malleable so that’s probably why you have striations in different directions on rocks so those are some of the features we see in currently glaciated areas so let’s extend those to Features where it’s claimed to have been glaciated here’s one area where I nearly uh live used to live west of Great Falls Montana near Augusta Montana these this is the Rocky Mountain front the Rocky Mountains were glaciated during the Ice Age and the ice came about 10 miles out on the high plane and formed this inm Marine just typically is what you see at the aabas glacier I’m taking a picture of U of this from this part of the in Marine right here it was breached right in here probably when the glacier melted it breached through the inm Marine right here so that’s why there’s a gap there when you look at the material in the inm Marine it’s very similar to Glaciers you see today it’s rocks of all sizes in a finer grain Matrix surrounding the Rocks typically they call that glacial till also as you go when you go up into the Rocky Mountains you see scratched Bedrock going east in fact there’s an 800t Cliff right along here the glacier came up out of this Valley scratched the Bedrock and went down over an 800t Cliff also you find in um in the Marine that I showed you previously you find rocks that are scratched in several different directions typical what you see in glaciated areas and this is in an area that gets up in the 80s for high temperatures in the summertime also as you tour around the West you see that out of some of the mountain valleys of the western us you see Marines just like you see at um Athabasca Glacier this is probably one of the best marines that I I’ve ever seen before this is the horseshoe shaped lateral inm Marines around a beautiful walawa Lake in Northeast Oregon that about it moved out onto the Enterprise plane in Northeast Oregon about 4,000 ft altitude where it gets probably a high temperature of 90 as the average in July there’s a lateral Marine in Marine and lateral Marine they’re fairly sharp looking indicating that the Ice Age ended not that long ago furthermore a feature like this could not uh form during the flood this feature has to form by other mechanisms and it’s on top of flood sediments so the Ice Age occurred after the flood and here’s this uh another picture of that lateral Marine you can see the trees for scale this lateral Marine is 600 ft tall and here’s uh what you see within the lateral Marine glacial till rocks of all sizes and a finer grain Matrix and you see these uh around the Sierra mountains and Other M Wind River mountains of the western United States also you see these erratic boulders here and there most of them I see are kind of subrounded or rounded I think that a lot of erratics were were transported by water this one is very angular this is the famous okao eratic Southwest of Calgary Alberta this forms a line of artics from Jasper Alberta down into Northern Montana just kind of a line and very angular which means they didn’t roll down there probably they formed they were deposited by icebergs as ice was melting here’s a here’s another famous erratic called The Bell erratic now this erratic is uh now erratic Boulder is is a boulder that rock that doesn’t outcrop in the local area it’s been transported somehow that’s what they mean by an erratic Boulder or exotic Boulder is another name this one is found Southwest of Portland Oregon in the wamit valley it’s uh composed of arite which is a slightly metamorphose shell and the nearest outcrop of that is in northern Idaho and it’s well south of the ice where the I the boundary of the Ice by the way how did it get down there and it’s very angular the only way you can think about it is is an iceberg and how would an iceberg take it down there well when glacial Lake missula broke it spread through Eastern Washington through the Columbia Gorge and spread over Portland Oregon 400t deep and up into the wamed valley so if there was a glacial Lake Missoula and a lake Missoula flood there had to be a a thick ice dam in northern Idaho to block up the the water in the Clark Fork Valley indicating again that the Ice Age was a real event so when you sum it all up this is the big picture right here ice covered practically all of Canada just a little bit in the Yukon Territory was unglaciated it came down in the northern United States to around they claim Northern Missouri and I’m not quite sure of that um I’m that’s a subject to research but it got pretty far south of the Great Lakes and um it covered some of the mountain areas as ice caps but interesting enough in Alaska the Brooks range and Alaska range uh they were glaciated but the lowlands of Alaska were not glaciated and that’s where you find all those woolly mammoths bison and uh horses and lots of animals in ice AG permer Frost in those areas when you go to Europe and Asia this is a General feature where the ice was it covered much of England and and Northern Germany and Poland and clear out in Northwest Siberia now there’s a little question on the boundary right in here and some people think that the ice covered uh the barren Sea north of Norway there so there’s still some controversy over the exact uh distribution of the ice but when you add it all up ice covered 30% of the Continental areas the closest ice to this area would have been up in Pennsylvania can we explain it well I believe we can first of all we can tell from the clues that it’s post flood it’s on the surface of flood sediments and we definitely don’t have it today in the present climate the the ice sheets in Canada are gone so it must have happened in a transitional climate from the flood to the present climate well that means the flood could have caused the ice age well indeed I believe that’s that is the case so let’s see how The Genesis Flood fulfills the requirements for an ice age well the the flood was a giant volcanic tectonic event tectonic is crestal uh Earth movements but uh at the end of the flood you have a huge shroud of volcanic dust and aerosols aerosols are fine particles about a micron in diameter they would be floating on the stratosphere what they do what we know from Modern volcanic eruptions they cause cooler temperatures especially in summer and over the large land masses so after the flood you’d have so much volcanic ash and Aerosoles that you’d cause a pretty good cooling right off the bat also The Fountains of the great deep and volcanism cause a warm ocean there’s lots of ways to cause a warm ocean in uh in any flood model but The Fountains of the great deep imply that there was a water trapped in the crust and it came up and at the end of the flood uh that warm water coming from the crust would have been added to the current oceans result in a warm ocean from top to bottom and pole to pole you could probably swim in the Arctic Ocean right after the flood it was so warm there’d be no sea ice anyway the significance of the warm water is that the warmer the water the more the evaporation in fact at 86° fahren you would have seven times the amount of evaporation of of water then at 0° Centigrade or 32° fah huge amount of evaporation with with warmer water also the mechanism is going to persist but it’s going to WAN with time as the volcanic ash uh settles out and the Earth settles down to equilibrium and the oceans cool particularly the oceans cooling is the key for the waning of the Ice Age here’s kind of a schematic of how this would work uh the volcanic dust and Aerosoles would reflect some of the sunlight back to space cooling the surface of the Earth mainly the the land masses at bidden high latitudes now volcanic ash and Aerosoles filtered out of the atmosphere sink out of the atmosphere in about 1 to three years so you have to keep replenishing the stratosphere um after the the the the flood and indeed there’s a tremendous amount of Ice Age volcanism in Ice Age sediments indicating we had tremendous vulcanism for quite a while after the flood now they notice they know that uniformitarians notice that they know volcanism causes cooling but you know when they stretch out the Ice Age into a 2 million year period it’s nothing but when we telescope it into a short time scale it become very very significant now with basic meteorology you can guesstimate that’s a that’s mological jargon the storm tracks during the Ice Age storm tracks would be in areas where you have strong horizontal temperature differences and where would they be they would generally be between the cold cool land and the warm ocean so you’d have a storm track parallel with the East Coast also another storm track would be cold ice ice sheet and uh a little bit warmer land here so you’d have a storm track just south of the ice sheet and storms would generally follow the now these are General storm tracks in meteorology chaos usually rules so these are just these are just general and most of the time precipitation in wintertime storms falls on the north side of the storm so it fall right in there where the ice was building up in this schematic the this is uh where the ice is still building up also you can figure out where the main evaporation areas are generally with West East flow you have fairly drier cooler air from the continent going out over the warmer ocean that’s produces strong evaporation on the East coasts of continents and of course uh in an an Arctic Ocean close to the land you’d have strong evaporation those are close to the areas at the mid high latitudes where you want it to evaporate it’s close to where the building ice sheets developed in Canada and the northern United States and and of course Scandinavia now I’m going to go on to support for the model there’s lots of evidence for wet deserts and I’m going to show you a few diagram and a picture coming up but the evidence shows that the dry areas about 30° north like like the Southwest United States the Dead Sea area Australia lots of places were once much wetter here’s a plot of the what’s called plal lakes in the Southwest United States right in this area now this is just in the Great Basin there was Lakes down in here Death Valley had a lake about 600 ft deep this is Lake bonnaville uh which is uh Great Salt Lake about 6 to eight times as large 800 ft deep Deeper by the way the average the salt Great Salt lake lake now today is only 15 ft deep it was 800 ft deeper during the Ice Age Now uniformitarians how are they going to get a climate change to to fill these things up in those areas it is very difficult but like I said there in our model we fill them up first as the flood drains off it’ll fill up Pockets or basins uh in the land at the end of the flood and by the way if you’ve ever been to these areas there’s beautiful large Shoreline features along this Lake bonnaville here shorelines and high Deltas if you land at Salt Lake airport look out the window along the Foothills and you see the shorelines there’s two distinct shorelines in fact I found shorelines around this this Lake it’s called Lake lonton uh it’s today you just have a few shriveled remnants of that Lake these Lakes right here they get up to almost 100 degrees now in the summer um I’ve I’ve taken pictures around there there Mono Lake there glacial Lake Mono Lake and then Death Valley there’s shorelines around Death Valley quite a different climate during the Ice Age lot wetter now it’s interesting that the Sahara Desert was much wetter man lived in the Sarah desert by the thousands and he has all kinds of rock art this is a picture of a giraffe on a rock in the Sahara Desert and I’m going to just summarize u a quote from the book The Great Sahara the Sahara is a veritable art gallery of prehistoric paintings the evidence is enough to show that the Sahara was once a well populated area of the prehistoric world yet there is man’s work in the most inaccessible corners of the desert literally thousands of figures of tropical and Aquatic animals yes aquatic animals enormous herds of cattle Hunters armed with bows and boomerangs and even domestic scenes of women and children in the circular Huts in which they lived why would the Sahara be much wetter during the Ice Age well because you had a huge amount of evaporation right after the flood the lowlands of Alaska and the Yukon were unglaciated and this is a mystery and here’s a plot of uh the mountains being glaciated and the lowlands which are are in yellow there are unglaciated by the way most models of the Ice Age have extreme difficulty forming the Ice Age extreme difficulty now some will produce it but a lot of times it’s because those models are tweaked to produce it anyway Phillips and held said in the Journal of climate Siberia and alas well they said we now have glaciation they did produce glaciation but unfortunately it was outside the areas where it existed during the last Heist age and that included the lowlands of of Alaska Siberia and the Yukon in other words those lowlands like to glaciate why weren’t they glaciated in our model it’s because of all the warm onshore flow mainly it was the onshore flow that kept it uh ice free now the mammoths in Siberia what were millions of mammoths doing in Siberia where they couldn’t live today mainly because it’s boggy they can’t get around and the bog ve vegetation is toxic to to them because they’re they ate grass Not only was the woolly mammoths in Siberia you had woly rhosus horse bison a lot of different animals that lived in Siberia during the Ice Age so what’s going on why why these sorts of things well first of all you got to determine whether the mammoth Di during the flood or during the Ice Age I think from what I’ve seen that from studyed it’s overwhelmingly they died at the end of the Ice Age one of the main evidence is in Northwest Siberia you find woolly mammoth skeletons on top of glacial till which means that as the glaciers receded from Northwest Siberia the mammoths came up in that area and then they died on top so they died at the end of the Ice Age that’s the distribution right there all across the northern hemisphere in fact you don’t find them in areas where the the ice lasted the longest which is much of Canada and Northern and Central Scandinavia which is what you’d expect during an ice age and during the Ice Age uh they would be able to migrate over a bearing land bridge now as the snow piles on land it evaporates from the ocean the original water and the sea level drops and the bearing land bridge is very shallow so man and animals could easily migrate uh into the United States and down through an ice free Corridor they came down here and spread through into the Southern United States Central and South America now a good indication that the climate was quite different during the Ice Age is the distribution of the S Saga analou the solid line there represents the current distribution of The Saga antalope and the and the dash line is the historical their their range is shrinking but those dots represent Ice Age distributions you can see them up in Northern Siberia what’s so significant about that well the Saga antalope has thin hoodes and it likes Wide Open Spaces PLS and can’t negotiate permafrost very and swamps very well indicating that this area was totally different uh ecologically during the Ice Age than it is there today during the Summers it’s a it’s quite a swamp land because of the melting of Perma Frost permafrost melts that much and it has nowhere to go and so it ponds and then you get all these plants growing in there and it becomes a bog land and it’s hardly any animals can live there today in those those those areas this is indication that we very likely had no permafrost during the Ice Age Now the uniformitarians I think have not really faced this this problem because they grudgingly might say well maybe it was a little warmer climate but but some say hey it was during the Ice Age it had to be a lot colder in Siberia and they say oh that would solve the problem of those bogs it freeze the bogs well if it freezes the bogs what are they going to eat and here’s a woolly mammoth timeline whether you start with two elephants that leave the ark at the end of the ice age or two Wily mammoths I believe it was two elephants and the macadons and mammoths are part of the elephant kind but regardless they’re going to grow slowly they grow slowly and then finally when they’re going their population’s going to mushroom by by geometric progression yes you have plenty of time for millions of mammoths in a 700-year ice age finally towards the end of the Ice Age the climate changes it’s a dynamic climate it becomes colder drier and windy and they go extinct at the end of the Ice Age this is the famous baras saaka Mammoth that was uh towed out of uh Northeast Siberia and that’s generally the position they found them it’s in the St Peter Peter B Museum in St Petersburg and it had a broken for leg it had broken ribs broken pelvis and it was in a general standing position the question is that really plagues most people is how did these animals die well I believe the solution is found in the deposits surrounding the mammoths let’s take a look at what they were they’re buried in are they buried in uh bog with bog material River material some are on those I think but the Mass majority of them are in windblown Silt this is a recent quote from a book called mammoths and the mammoth FAA a particular interest for Paleo olist is What’s called the odama the Adamas are Hills of per of that are formed after permafrost melts around it and leaves some per Frost as Hills this is actually a lus layer that is windblown silt as a rule containing the largest amounts of remains of late pene animals they’re buried in windblown silk so what’s the picture here well I believe they died in in in large dust storms sort of like what happened in the dust bow ERA this is a picture from the Dust Bowl era that if you were in a dust storm you would see just a cloud of this dust uh coming and the visibility would go down to zero there might not be any wind right before it it’d be like with a cold front sometimes there’s no wind ahead of a cold front suddenly the winds just really pick up and and it just the visibility drops to zero and dust drift talk about dust dri during the dust bow eras dust drifts covered up fences Machinery up this one is up to the tops of a house and by the way I believe that the amount of windbone silt in in those areas of Siberia some in place some places is over 100 ft thick so I believe you had worse dust storms up there in Siberia than you did in the dust bow area they might ask well why are we going to have late uh Ice Age dust storms well because of Colder Winters colder oceans which means more sea ice which also means a drier atmosphere and stronger north south temperature differences all resulting in lot stronger winds and dry cold fronts lot drier cold cold fronts so here’s the big picture woolly mammoth peacefully eating grass and buttercups yes buttercups the reason we have those is because um uh they were in his mouth and in its stomach uh half decayed the digestion of a woolly doesn’t occur in the stomach it occurs in the after the stomach by the way I think that’s a key to why we we the the vegetation only half decayed but anyway the winds come up uh-oh he’s going to ride it out guess what he ends up like a snow fence and what happens to snow fences the snow piles up around it the dust would pile up he’s starting to suffocate and he’s in a standing position he tries to get out and he breaks his uh right arm leg bone cuz it appears that he was alive when that front leg uh broke and by the way there’s an analog for this in Hot Springs South Dakota where some of the mammoth that fell into that sinkhole they’ve excavated 52 mammoths in Hot Springs South Dakota in a sinkhole some of them have broken four limbs also that the researcher there thinks it was because they’re trying to get out of the mud in this case uh the dust packing up would be almost like concrete finally other dust storms totally cover him up and he ends up in a standing position in the dust and the per how do you get them in the per Frost this has always been a major question one person said do you jam him into the per Frost no the permer frost in this case will come up to meet him and by the way permer Frost also shifts and faults once you get it up there and the falting can break the pelvis of the Baraka Mammoth and Its Ribs so in a nutshell that’s the story of how I believe they went extinct also something called disharmonious Association they find as a rule you have animals that love the Heat and love the cold that were buried in Ice Age deposits together in the book quary extinctions a prehistoric Revolution it said the late pene communities that’s Ice Age communities were characterized by the coexistence of species that today are allopatric translated not climatically associated and presumably ecologically incompatible disharmonious associations have been documented for late Pine Ice Age floras that’s your plants terrestrial invertebr lower invertebr birds and mammals in fact it was common and that’s exactly what you expect because this distribution would occur with cool Summers and Mild Winters while in the uniformitarian model you have cold Winters period you shouldn’t expect that one of the most outrageous instances is in England where you have 100 associations of hippos with musk ox and reindeers in the same stratagraph layer how do how do hippos get up there during the Ice Age well because I believe Britain was warm with a lot of warm onshore flow for quite a while and very wet very heavy precipitation so the hippo after the the flood and leaving the the ark would uh find it congenial up in there and finally as but as the temperatures cool off he W he found himself in the wrong environment and he was being populated by reindeer and muscs and woolly mammoths and finally they all died and were were were buried in what it says here in this quote in stratagraph context it seemed to indicate contemporar in other words they died at the same time also they found out that when things were supposed to get better at the end of the Ice Age it was warming up the ice was melting suddenly all these large animals disappeared on whole continents or went extinct all over the world indise age extinctions 100 species of large animals in North America stat 70% died at the end of the Ice Age including the horse and the camel Europe and Asia lost 75% at the end of the Ice Age Australia lost 90% at the end of the Ice Age why well I think it’s the same reason they Lo they were lost in Siberia uh it was colder drier and windier I think the dust storms which is lots of evidence was a prime factor in the extinctions at the end of the Ice Age here’s a quote from a recent book after many decades of debate the North American inosine megaphon mass extinction remains a lightning rod of controversy the extraordinary Divergent opinions expressed in this volume show that no resolution is in sight I would say it can readily be explained in the post flood Ice Age model all right now that was a lot of information I know probably like my head’s still spinning but don’t worry like I said we are going to recap this information break it down a little bit let’s review and summarize what meteorologist Michael Ard just presented his presentation breaks down into three main parts first part deals with the question of was there really an ice age and as we said at the beginning what’s an ice age it’s a period of substantially increased ice coverage on the world’s land masses was there an ice age well to determine that we must compare the features of Glacier covered land day to the features that we find in other places that perhaps once had glaciers and o o describes two features for this comparison the first are Marines both lateral and N Marines what is a marine he said the definition a couple different times it’s a collection of various siiz rocks and a finer grain Matrix he said what basically it’s a collection of mixed Rocky debris all shoved together so just think a whole bunch of different sides rocks and what looks like sand or something like that that’s that’s aine he also gave Marines another name did you catch what that name was ertic oh we’ll get to erratic in just a second he called it uh similar he talks about wind blown silt at the end of the presentation but another name for Marines is glacial till so it’s soil that’s formed by glaciers glacial till so you have Marines or glacial till they’re formed when glaciers move or expand now Glaciers are just another way to refer to giant ice sheets so these powerful this powerful moving ICE as precipitation builds up on it and it expands it pushes with great pressure on the rocks and soil in its path it either shoves them to the side which is what forms a lateral marine or it shoves it to the front which is what forms an end marine or a a terminal marine and these marines are very distinctive if you find marines that collection of VAR sized rocks and a finer grain Matrix then you know there is a glacier nearby or there was a glacier nearby because that’s how these things form and we do see evidence like this especially across North America now what what was another main sign of ice coverage that people can see on the area’s rocks scratched bedrock striated Criss Crossing scratches on rocks and this is again as glaciers expand they sometimes carry rocks they many times carry rocks and the moving of rock and ice across Bedrock that doesn’t move it lays deep scratches into the Rock and if there are any rocks being carried by the glaciers well the Bedrock leaves scratches on those rocks and those rocks being carried by the glaciers being pushed by the glaciers they sometimes turn and so you get scratches going in different directions so scratch Bedrock station on rocks is another Telltale sign of glaciation there is or there once was Ice coverage in the area now as oart explains we find Marines we find scratched Bedrock all over areas of the northern hemisphere even that don’t have glaciers nearby today and we also find someone used the term before erratics erratic Boulders what are erratic boulders there Steve exactly they’re Boulders that seem alien to the landscape they’re not like the other rocks in the area they just seem like they appeared out of nowhere also called exotic Boulders they don’t match the rocks in the environment and they couldn’t just roll there or at least many of them didn’t because these rocks these erratic Boulders many times have sharp unworn sides so it’s like they were carried there they didn’t have their edges worn off or broken off something must have brought these alien rocks to the location what is it that can carry giant rocks and deposit them far from where they originally come from Ice glaciers and we also find erratic Boulders in various places in the northern hemisphere so then because these land features show up in a lot of places other than where Glaciers are today what is the conclusion what must have existed in these areas in the past ice there must have been massive ice sheets glaciers here in the past there was a lot of ice coverage here in the past and if there was as we see all over in the northern hemisphere substantially more ice coverage then than there was now then what can we infer previously existed in the world an Ice Age there once was an Ice Age these places must have once been covered by ice sheets there must have been an Ice Age on on the earth now this is not a crazy conclusion both uniformitarians those who don’t believe the Bible’s history and just assume everything that is is the way things were both uniformitarians and creationist scientists agree that our Earth previously experienced at least one Ice Age how far did the ice sheets extend you may have seen it on the video most of Canada about half the US and in Eurasia most of England Northwest Siberia Scandinavia the video only focuses on the Northern Hemisphere there apparently was in the southern hemisphere too like Chile Argentina most of New Zealand Southeast Australia there’s evidence of ice sheets there as well in all about 30% of all land was covered by ice at one point in the Ice Age so we’re not talking about a frozen planet no that’s not the ice age but it is substantially more ice coverage almost triple the amount of land that is covered by Ice today that’s the way the world once was okay we see evidence of an Ice Age we we know with confidence that it existed but why why the Ice Age what brought the ice what caused the ice to go away and why are some areas in the Ice Age glaciated why others are not even when they’re at high latitude that is they’re very far north you’d expect them to be covered by ice but they don’t end up being covered by Ice why well in the second part of the lecture Michael Ard introduces us to the basic creationist explanation for the Ice Age first of all there’s no need for us to ask if the ice happened if the Ice Age happened before the flood or after because the physical evidence for the ice age is above what we could identify as flood sediments it’s above soil and rock layers that only could have come about from the flood so the implication must be the Ice Age came after the flood if we have all the physical evidence for the Ice Age on top of flood layers then it must have occurred after the flood now meteorologically you need two seemingly contradictory preconditions to create an ice age do remember what those are or one one of them yeah Dwayne War motions you need warm motions to produce or you need lots of evaporation potentially from a warm ocean but what else cooler temperatures you need cooler temperatures to form the ice so you need lots of evaporation but cooler temperatures on land so the ice can build up and not melt now these things don’t well don’t go well together uh you need a lots of evaporation to perform to form intense precipitation but these things don’t normally go well together because what do you need for increased evaporation you need warmth you need high temperatures but an Ice Age requires cold temperatures so this is a a difficult problem for secular scientists uniformitarian scientists they see evidence for an ice age but they cannot really describe the mechanism that brought it about because how do you get lots of evaporation and cooler temperatures at the same time one usually prevents the other but what actually would give you the these two seemingly contradictory preconditions lots of evaporation cooler temperatures this is what Michael O’s argument is it’s the flood the flood could fulfill these preconditions because as we read in Genesis 711 with The Fountains of the great deep breaking open as well as the floodgates of the sky opening the flood was likely a massive massively traumatic tectonic and Volcanic event tectonic meaning movements of the crust plates volcanic we’re talking about uh volcanic material going into the water and into the air you’ve probably got now this is not stated explicitly in the scriptures this is an inference you’ve probably got with those Fountains of the great deep breaking open hot water and mantle material So within the Earth’s crust mantle material spilling into the oceans you’ve got volcanic activity erupting everywhere you’ve got tectonic plates moving and crashing into each other that volcanic activity means the Aerosoles are finding their way into the stratosphere now what’s the stratosphere so in the various levels of atmosphere that we have we live in the troposphere that’s the bottom one the stratosphere is the one right above it so lots of Aerosoles are going into the second layer of atmosphere the stratosphere and these aerosols are blocking and reflecting sunlight and without as many of the sun’s Rays reaching the ground what happens to the land cools down to get cooler temperatures cooler Summers and by the way what’s an aerosol just a extremely tiny particle that floats in the atmosphere so on the one hand you have volcanic ash and Aerosoles producing cooler temperatures which are needed for the ice age but on the other hand all that Oceanic tectonic and volcanic activity does what to the water it warms it up a warmer water evaporates faster so then the deep ocean fountains and vulcanism creates the warm ocean which leads to a high amount of evaporation which leads to a high amount of precipitation which on land stays around in the form of ice in many places because the land is cooler so now you see a coherent explanation from a creationist from a Biblical perspective the flood gives you the worldwide historical flood gives you the two preconditions that you need for an Ice Age cooler temperatures but higher levels of evaporation and precipitation now key to this understanding is that these mechanisms are longlasting but they are not permanent long- lasting but not permanent they eventually fix themselves and here’s another problem for uniformitarian scientists who ignore or don’t believe the Bible they when they’re trying to explain the Ice Age if they’re trying to model the Ice Age if they can somehow get the ice H to start the problem then is how do you get it to stop and a lot of times they can’t we can’t figure out how this thing would stop once you get it going but the flood provides a mechanism that prod produces an Ice Age which lasts but also wanes with time aerosols eventually settle out of the atmosphere after about 1 to 3 years though as aard says there’s evidence there was still lots of volcanic activity during the Ice Age so the aerosols would have gotten regularly replenished nevertheless even that vulcanism gradually decreased so aerosols are eventually diminishing in the atmosphere more importantly due to evaporation what eventually happens to the oceans well the the sea level is going to drop but what about the temperature it cools down this is what evaporation does this is why when you sweat you cool down it’s not because you producing water out of your body cools you down it’s as the water evaporates from your skin it cools you down that’s what water does I mean that’s what evaporation does so the oceans eventually cool the Aerosoles eventually settle out this causes the ice age to wind down now o also talks about how using the same meteorological understandings that we have today we can infer General storm patterns for the Ice Age and from these estimations we would have seen on the earth lots of precipitation in the areas which lo and behold we see lots of evidence of ice build up in the past if we just think of how those storms probably came about in a flood caused Ice Age now with these processes how long was the ice age I don’t know if you caught in his presentation it was only listed on a graph award’s estimate is about 700 years now creationists vary on that number I read another scientists assert that the Ice Age was a mere 250 years but generally cacious talk of an ice age that lasts mere hundreds of years perhaps as much as 700 years which is quite different from uniformitarian scientists as we’ll see in a moment Art’s particular model suggests about 500 years of ice buildup and then about 200 years of ice recession so it’s not like year one boom there’s all the ice and then year 700 or and know year two all the ice is gone there’s gradual buildup gradual decrease so if we if we follow ard’s estimate his model and we combine it with what we understand from the Bible about the timeline of the earth as we’ve discussed even previously in this course this would mean that the Ice Age began soon after the end of the flood which again according to the Genesis genealogies would be around 2350 BC and the Ice Age would have ended around 1650 BC or about 200 years before Israel’s Exodus from Egypt you say well why doesn’t the Bible mention it well what the Bible talks about is taking place in the Middle East you’re not seeing a lot of the effects of the Ice Age there though perhaps that does explain why certain areas in the Middle East and around it were more fertile at that that time in the in biblical times than they are today now again creationist vary on the exact number of years but if we use the 700 that would be about where it fits in the Biblical timeline now in the last part of Art’s presentation we hear about the unique nature how the unique nature of the flood created Ice Age fits with various pieces of scientific data what evidence fits the flood Ice Age model the first piece that evidence first piece of evidence that or offers is wet deserts places that are extremely hot and dry today have evidence of formerly great amounts of flora fauna and water but this is to be expected with a different Ice Age climate especially with increased precipitation in various parts of the world due to Oceanic evaporation but also cooler Summers and even milder Winters making those places much more livable so oard mentions two specific examples Lake Bonville in the Southwest United States states which is desert today and the plentiful Rock paint ings in the Sahara Desert another support for this ice age model are unfrozen lowlands at high latitudes being so far north one might expect these places would be ice covered devoid of Life they’re near places that are ice covered but why aren’t these lowlands glaciated why aren’t they covered with ice because they’re near the coasts and the coast is bringing warm onshore flow those warmer oceans they bring warmer air into the area so those places remain not quite as cool as the other places around them and they don’t glaciate they don’t get covered with ice so even at high latitudes even very far north you have certain lowlands that are near the coast that remain ice free which makes sense according to the flood model it’s hard to explain in uniformitarian model animal remains also emphasize this aspect of unique environments during the Ice Age or talks about a few of them first there are the large wooly animals we find the remains in places that seem imp possible for them to have lived if their environments are similar to today places that are swamps or frozen tundra but these lands were different they must have been different in the past even during the Ice Age most likely fertile grasslands unless we get confused these animal remains they must be post flood because in what kind of soil do we find them buried glacial till which is something that only could be formed in the Ice Age which is on top of flood sediments so many large animal remains even of wooly animals they’re found all over North America and Siberia both speaking of North America specifically both man and animals were able to migrate to North America over the bearing land bridge because somebody already mentioned it as ice sheets as ice sheets form on land due to the high evaporation of the Ice Age what happens to the ocean it gets lower lower sea level because the water is trapped on land in the form of ice doesn’t flow back into the ocean to replenish the sea level so the sea level drops this means that many parts of the world that were cover that are covered by ocean today were actually uncovered back then the bearing land bridge linking Alaska and the eastern part of Asia is one example but England also would have been joined to the European continent Indonesia would have been joined in various places making migration to Australia uh easier and many offshore islands around the world today they would have been attached to the main continents during that time which explains how the animals and even people got there a second animal able to prosper in Ice Age created environments that o talks about is the PSA analou they only live in a small area today due to their very specific preferences for living conditions they prefer wide open Plains mild weather and yet we find them from past remains all over Siberia and Eastern Russia which they would not be able to live in today it must have been a different climate back then but not only the remains of where we found where animals lived but also the remains of how these animals died fit fits well with an ice age flood Ice Age model specifically the demise of woolly mammoths and though the Ice Age created some livable climates in Northern lowlands and other places that environment eventually changed and according to oard many fertile Northern Plains they became colder drier and windier though the Ice Age had created cooler Summers and milder Winters in various places when the ice ages environmental effects diminished these environments became no longer hospitable for the animals that were currently living there and one deadly change that developed in many places especially for the mammoth was the rise of a certain kind of storm what kind of storm dust storms uh again formed because of the drier colder windier climate these storms were as bad or worse as some of the dust storms in the dust bow area and they were capable of rapidly covering stationary mammoths until it was too late for those mammoths to try to move we mentioned in a previous lesson I think Mark brought it up but remember to get fossils to get animal remains preserved uh in a in a substantial way you need rapid covering not just something that dies on the surface and then decays otherwise you’re not going to get a fossil so with dust storms like this you’re going to get rapid coverings of animals like willly Mammoth and which is why we find them today again this is something that we would expect from a post Ice Age caused by a flood or at the end of Ice Age caused by the flood along with this another concept that oard mentions having to do with changing environments is disharmonious Association does anybody remember what that refers toal would normally live together dying that’s right you have animals that prefer widely different climates apparently living and dying in the same place hippos and reindeers both living in England at the same time that doesn’t make make any sense but it does make sense if you see that the Ice Age caused different environmental conditions in many places even ones that are much more congenial to many types of animals the new temperatures though and the new storms at the end of the Ice Age cause these environments to no longer be survivable for many of these animals which leads to mass extinctions to be sure a man played a part in these extinctions too just as he does many times large animals tend to get hunted to extinction by man that’s even a problem today but many environmental factors at the end of the Ice Age were working against animals that were formerly well suited to their environments not just the dust storms that would definitely take out a whole bunch of animals especially the large ones but simply the fact that it’s no longer wet enough or it’s no longer cool enough or it’s no longer warm enough and these animals just can’t survive and so they die off now this is just an overview of what was his overview so there are very there are various other aspect the ice age that we could explore in more detail which we can’t right now but don’t miss the main points there is strong evidence of an ice age in our world and the flood is a good explanation for the ice age as the flood likely would have supplied unique the unique environmental conditions to produce the ice age but also for the ice age to end the way that it did and leave its mark on the world only 5 minutes left so let me go to this last bit what do secular uniformitarians think of the Ice Age this the last part we want to talk about today what’s the general uniformitarian thought how does it compared to a Bible believing worldview Bible starting worldview well in summary fashion secular scientists don’t believe there was a worldwide flood that’s no surprise so it’s not the trigger for the ice age in fact for them there is no Ice Age there are ice ages currently the thought is that there are five ice ages the first place the first one taking place about 2.2 billion years ago the most recent taking place about 2 million years ago in fact they would say that we’re still in an ice age for them the term Ice Age refers to a vast period of time with maybe even only slightly different conditions on the earth Within These ice ages ice expands and Retreats according to cycle so it can happen multiple times within an Ice Age every 40,000 years or 100,000 years ice reaches its maximum level and then it Retreats according to them we’re in an ice retreating period and have been for the last 10,000 years what causes this multiple and cyclical set of ice ages well the only cause they can sort of buy into is that it has to do with the Earth’s orbit explanation is a bit detailed but basically they suppose that slight changes in the Earth’s orbit over thousands of years along with tectonic plate movements and slight changes in the Earth’s atmosphere alt together it causes an Ice Age cycle however this explanation doesn’t hold up very well under scrutiny because the differences in Earth orbit are too too slight to substantially affect the Earth’s environment but even more problematically you cannot get both preconditions for an Ice Age with these methods that is high evaporation and precipitation but lower temperatures this is why many uniformitarian scientists admit as even Michael oard mentions that they don’t really know what caused the ice agees it’s generally not well understood they are sure though that there have been many ice ages based off of the way they assess the evidence this complexity of glacial expansion other bits of data like certain Oceanic rocks and Ice core Rings again this is interpreted according to uniformitarian assumptions but they say there must have been many ice ages there must have been several ice ages but there is a more reasonable explanation for this ice data the great flood of God’s judgment caused unique conditions on the earth that resulted in a small period of several hundred years in which more of the Earth was covered by Ice again this is not inherent scripture but this this is an explanation that helps make sense of the data that we do see while starting from a reliable Foundation the scriptures stand on the authority of the scriptures start with that and then use that as the as the proper lens for interpreting the data that you see in the world this is what Michael art is attempting to do this is what we’re attempting to do as a class this is what it means to have a Biblical worldview it doesn’t make you uh a lite who doesn’t understand how science works or how technology Works rather you bring in true and reliable assumptions to make sense of the data that you see when it comes to the ice age when it comes to the flood when it comes to Creation when it comes to anything that you see in the world this is just another illustration of what it means to have a biblical worldview okay 9:59 so no no time for questions if you do have questions about this there’s of course more information in the Answers in Genesis resources in book form and on their website you can come talk with me afterwards too I’m not an expert on the ice age but I can at least tell you what I’ve learned from anwers and Genesis but that’s all for this week next week we move on to our final lesson and the final C of our course’s subtitle we have been examining the ancient consequences of sin in Genesis 3:11 we’ve seen corruption at the fall we’ve seen the C catastrophe of the flood but next week we investigate confusion man’s rebellion and God’s intervening Judgment at Babel which again helps to explain and make sense of what we see in the world today even in the spreading out and the differences of various people groups so be back for that investigation let me close in prayer Lord God we thank you for your reliable word we don’t know Lord all the specifics about what what you did in the past but we do see evidence of it in the world and how we assess the evidence is going to lead to widely different conclusions whether we come to the evidence believing your Bible or we come to the evidence rejecting your Bible or ignoring your Bible but Lord you have shown us that your Bible is reliable it’s the god breathed word so what what sure way could we have of assessing the evidence than to believe your word and assess the evidence accordingly Lord I pray that You’ bless the rest of the service today bless your people grow us more into the image of Christ in Jesus name amen thank you

  • Lesson 9: Noah’s Ark

    Lesson 9: Noah’s Ark

    In this lesson looking more at the great flood, Pastor Dave Capoccia focuses on Noah’s ark itself. The Bible gives some description of the size and specifications of the ark, but is the ark believable? How would such a vessel have been able to handle the tumultuous conditions of the flood? And how did Noah fit all the land and air animals, including dinosaurs, on the ark?

    The main text for this lesson is Genesis 6:13-22.

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    realistic or historical thing but we can get a better sense of what the ark actually looked like by looking at the description again in Genesis 6 so let’s do that Genesis 6: 13- 16 let’s see the description of the Ark as Moses gives it by the spirit of God in this section Genesis 6: 13 13- 16 oh I’m in Exodus that didn’t that won’t help then God said to Noah the end of All Flesh has come before me for the Earth is filled with violence because of them and behold I am about to destroy them with the Earth make for yourself an ark of gopher wood you shall make the ark with rooms and shall cover it inside and out with pitch this is how you shall make it the length of the Ark 300 cubits its breadth 50 cubits and its height 30 cubits you shall make a window for the ark and finish it to a cubit from the top and set the door of the Ark and the side of it you shall make it with lower second and third decks all right as always when we’re looking to interpret a Biblical text we just start with simple observations what do we see we see here that God is the one speaking to Noah and he tells Noah to build an ark what is an arc we actually don’t know we might want to say well an ark is a box because there is another item in the Bible That’s translated as an arc and that is a box what would that be the Ark of the Covenant it basically the box that contains or holds the Covenant and the Hebrew the Hebrew word for Arc there is Aron and it can be translated box chest or coffin but the word here the Hebrew word here in this passage and used throughout the flood account is different it’s t or TBA and its origin and its meaning are uncertain the only other time TBA is used in the Bible is interestingly of the floating basket that jocked makes from Moses Exodus 2:3 but when she could hide him no longer she got him a whisker wicker basket or more literally an arc of Papyrus reads and covered it over with tar and Pitch then she put the child into it and set it among the reads by the bank of the Nile that’s Exodus 2:3 so obviously shape size and building material are different in those two instances of this Arc but in both cases no Tava refers to some kind of floating life-preserving structure therefore some interpreters have offered a translation of Tavon more in line with purpose rather than shape Tavon might mean something like Lifeboat so God tells Noah to build a Lifeboat an arc now Noah what notice what the ark was supposed to be made out of gopherwood what is gopherwood it must have been uh appropriate wood a strong enough wood a versatile enough wood for making the ark but as to what kind of wood it is precisely we don’t know the Hebrew word goair appears no other place in the Bible or in Hebrew for that matter it’s only here some would say the word indicates Cypress or Cedar Wood others say that goair indicates a process to be applied to Wood like planing or covering with pitch it’s also possible that gopher wood is a kind of wood that simply no longer exists in our world that species of tree died out cannot say what this word means for sure but we can say it has nothing to do with the animals called Gophers now notice no is told to build the ark with rooms the Hebrew word for room literally means or the word for room here literally means nest and is translated as such in many other places in the Bible notice that Noah is told to cover the ark inside and out with pitch for what is pitch used okay right exactly it’s a it’s a waterproof thing it’s a sealing mechanism you cover it with a tar or pitch and you you waterproof the wood so that makes sense if you’re going to build a boat now notice the dimensions of the art dark we have 300 cubits long 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits tall all right here’s that Cubit again we’ve encountered that before what is a cubit yeah the common Cubit is about 18 inches but it’s the length from the elbow to the end of the fingers but 18 in isn’t the only size of a cubit it varied through time and culture from 18 in to about 21 in some culturs even had two kinds of cubits there would be a short Cubit and a long cubit what Cubit which type of Cubit is meant here without getting to great detail answers the Genesis has uh explanation of this but probably we’re looking at what would be the long cubit in many cultures 20.4 in approximately 20.4 inch but we can’t say for sure probably that long Cubit we can’t say for sure but if it is indeed that measurement we could calculate the measurements of The Arc in feet again a little bit of math here if the length is 300 cubits then we just multiply 300 cubits by 20 20.4 in per cubit which gives us 6,120 in and we divide that by 12 in per foot and we get ft and using the same kind of calculation we can discover the width and height as well the width would be about 85t and the height would be about ft from these Dimensions we can see that this is a very large L vessel according to these calculations we could fit about 500 semi-trailers within the dimensions of the Ark the ark would actually be comparable to some of today’s medium-sized cargo ships this is a large vessel and notice God tells Noah to make a door and a window for the ark a term for window may actually indicate something like a closable skylight or hatch or maybe just a window but notice where the window is supposed to go it’s to be a cubit from the top or literally to a cubit from above but on which side of the Ark is the window supposed to be it doesn’t say and uh what about the door where does the door go the text says in the side of the Ark which side we don’t know how many cubits high was the door supposed to be placed we don’t know the text doesn’t say but probably was up decently High I’m not going to put it right at the bottom of the boat it would be that’ be inconvenient there that wouldn’t really work God also tells Noah to give the ark three decks how tall was each deck supposed to be again it doesn’t say how is one supposed to travel between the decks it doesn’t say though we can infer some kind of ramps because we have a bunch of animals on board they’re not going to be able to use ladders and that’s all we get that’s all we get from the text describing the ark and its construction so now let’s ask some questions of interpretation is this description of the arc an exhaustive blueprint or is it an overview of specifications it has to be an overview because there are key details that are simply not mentioned how big is the door supposed to be where exactly am I supposed to put it how am I supposed to put together the wood in such a way that the boat doesn’t leak how many rooms how many nests should I build how big should each one be what should I build so that we can move up and down between the different decks how should I prepare the Skylight or the window so that water doesn’t get inside the ark these questions and many others are simply not answered so how would Noah know what to do for these important details of the Ark either he simply had his own KN how the Lord trusted him to figure it out or right so either the Lord entrusted that Noah would be able to figure out whatever was not mentioned or he gave him other instructions that are not recorded here but it has to be one of those things because this is not exhaustive this does not give enough specific details for constructing the ark this means that while all these things in this chapter are true must have been true of the Ark there must have also been features of the Ark not mentioned in this chapter like the following the dimensions of the ark that we noted they are the dimensions of a rectangle but could the ark have been something other than a box yes it could have would Noah have been violating God’s instructions sted in chapter 6 if Noah included ship-like components in his construction such such as a front that came to a point no now again if he had other instructions that specified that then of course he had to fulfill that but based on what’s given here this is non-exhaustive list he would he would obviously have to include some things that are not specifically stated here perhaps even something that looks like a prow a front that came to a point that would not be violating the instructions given here now though Noah could have produced a boxlike Ark and God could have providentially successfully preserved such an arc it is likely that when God gave Noah these instructions Noah knew that he was building a ship and therefore he automatically knew to construct the ark like a ship after all according to the Genesis record the genealogies the time information we get there from creation to the time of Noah it’s been about 1700 years and there were already Seas on the earth it’s likely that man had learned how to build ships after all man had learned animal husbandry man had learned how to make music man had learned how to work with iron it’s likely also he made advances in being able to go on the water ship design though even that being true the ark was uniquely huge ship built with the unique challenges of the flood in mind so if not a box what did the ark look like and how how did its features help it manage the flood well probably looks something like some of the pictures I’ve already showed you today not the children’s pictures but Answers in Genesis famously has promoted a design for the ark uh hold on not not the video just yet um I have another slide to show yeah so this is what you see I’ll show a picture of the Arkham counter in just a second but this is a more basic picture this is the design promoted by Answers in Genesis you know Answers in Genesis that Christian apologetics organization so the front would be on the right side with that raised Fin and the back is is on the left side that piece sticking out at the bottom and there is a life-size version of this in Kentucky the ark encounter exhibit which you can go visit and explore uh in uh much more Hands-On way but why this shape why propose this shape as what Noah could have used even what Noah likely used for building the ark well we actually have a video we have a six to S minute video that explains why this design for the ark why this proposed design and just a couple clarifiers right at the beginning this video starts with a reference to John witcom and Henry Morris who are they well they’re the authors of the landmark Young Earth creation book The Genesis Flood so a lot of arguments that came out to say we really can trust the Bible this doesn’t cause us to be unreasonable with science those were first presented in that book you also hear a reference to Tim in this video who’s Tim that’s Tim love it and he’s a mechanical engineer and Arc specialist at the Creation Museum or at least he was all right we’re going to watch this video six and a half minutes and then we’ll come back and talk about it Wham and Morris showed the world that the biblical Arc was large enough to hold all the land dwelling air breathing animals they also established that the biblical dimensions of the Ark gave it the needed proportions to be a truly seaworthy craft while the initial box shape was certainly a step in the right direction Dr Wickham admits that the box design could be improved upon Henry Morris did the engineering part of our book and he simply took the dimensions given of course 300 cubits long for maybe 450 ft approximately the width 50 cubits the height 30 cubits and just assume from those three dimensions given that you have a rectangular shape now the refinements of that of course God didn’t record in the text and so that is left to our uh uh evaluation analysis uh as we think through the issues today we need to distinguish between holding on to items that the Bible clearly references clearly talks about you know statements the Bible clearly makes which we adhere to and we don’t change but being prepared to be flexible in regard to man’s models that are built upon the Bible the Ark in the shape of a box also gained popularity in 1976 when a documentary in search of Noah’s Ark was released this film also presented the shape of the Ark as boxlike but that conclusion came from unsubstantiated eyewitness accounts and a few blurred photographs of a structure on Mount [Music] Ararat it’s important to understand that there’s no solid evidence to support the claim that Noah’s Arc has been found and that it was indeed box shaped uh I personally don’t believe we’ve ever really found it that doesn’t bother me friend because Jesus said blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed you don’t have to find a piece of the Ark to believe that it was there some were buried deep in those mountains and if and when someday God shows it to us we’ll say Lord we’re amazed because the design of that gigantic thing that you put people into and air breathing and animals into is exactly what was needed for the catastrophism through which it passed working with two Naval Architects on the other side of the world Tim quickly discovered that the familiar box shape would not F so well at Sea the flat sides and bottom would give the passengers a very rough and even dangerous ride Tim built several 6-ft models for some open water testing one of his models was built to the specifications of a PhD Naval architect the model turned and aligned with the wind in contrast to the boxlike boat that rocked sideways on the waves he took this discovery and applied it to his proposed model of the Ark was this a logical model based on information given in the Book of Genesis the first question is what were the conditions like for Nosa was it dead Cal or were they waves wind Etc well there’s there’s a number of clues in the Bible the first the first clue is that Noah had to build something that looked like a ship it wasn’t just any old shape it looks very ship-like that 300X 50 by 30 that’s a big clue that looks like a ship so we’re expecting the water to act pretty normal it’s like the ocean because we’re building something that looks like a ship there’s other Clues as well for example in Genesis 81 God sent a wind and wind creates waves the Bible doesn’t specify a wind catching feature on the ark but it does tell you a relatively long hle and that is not exactly what you would expect if you were just designing a vessel to float in the water you wouldn’t make it so long it takes more work to build it long takes more wood and it’s more of a danger as it crosses over the waves that a good break what makes the most sense is the vessel was built for comfort as well as strength and capacity and seing so you have to balance all these factors together in order to make it comfortable you want that Ark to be running through the waves not side onto the waves which it would fall into naturally there’s a number of ways to do that all you need is any sort of wind obstruction on one end could be a sail could be a a building could be could be a a wooden fin um but I wanted something which was low maintenance I didn’t want sales that they had to look after so if we just build a wooden fin to catch the wind on one end and at the the other end I wanted something that would catch in the water and the usual way to do that is to have a thing called the skag which acts like a Rudder at the back of a ship once Tim had completed his art model he noticed a remarkable resemblance to ancient ship designs what I ended up with was something that looked familiar it looked a little bit like the designs of uh ancient ships such as the Greek Trims and more ancient ships what I noticed on the ancient designs is that had high stems and a lot of the very ancient ones had high stems on one end and and a extended uh mysterious appendage on the other were the features in these ships leftover technology from Noah’s Arc itself we can’t say for sure but it’s possible that the storm weathering design that Tim developed for his Arc is seen on some of the earliest ships historians who’ve been studying ships have found these appendages at the back of ships now some people have thought that they were prototypes of the Greek ramming Bell but this is at the back not the front this Stern appendage is is called a mystery uh if you don’t know what it’s for but if you if you view it as part of a storm keeping package in conjunction with a high stem at the other end then it makes perfect sense so maybe these ancient ship Builders knew exactly what they were doing or maybe they were just copying features from Noah’s AR which they seen their their fathers and grandfathers do [Music] all right nice so let’s summarize what we just heard from that video why does Answers in Genesis proposed shape makes sense for the ark well the ark’s proportions are the proportions of a ship and ships are not boxes actually as Tim love it testifies in a different video the proportion of the arc are extremely similar to Modern cargo ships Tim Lev even says that an engineering colleague of his came to believe the historicity of the Genesis account simply based on the remarkable proportions of the Ark he said this this is realistic this is the proportions of a ship now the long hole implies an arc designed for movement not simply floating otherwise you wouldn’t make a long hole a long hole as Tim you as you heard Tim say in the video it requires more wood and requires more labor and it lessens the overall stability of the ship actually in Genesis 7:18 when it says the ark floated on the surface of the water that Hebrew word translated floated contains the idea of movement so it was moving through the water as it floated the ark was not designed to be stationary similar features were found on Ancient ships the rear appendage has mystified modern Naval Engineers but the Ancients likely knew what they were doing this feature that skeg that pie sticking out into the water and the raised stem on the other end they were for ship safety and comfort on Ocean voyages now a box-shaped boat would not handle wind or waves very well it makes more sense to go with the waves rather than to get slapped sidewise sideways by them and this design successfully handles both wind and waves how would this design from ancestor Genesis how would it handle wind yeah what catches the wind yeah the the raised stem on the front of it like Tim says in the video any any sort of uh obstruction that sticks up into the air would function this way but an easy one that wouldn’t require maintenance would be that little th that raay stem on the front as the wind hits that fin it pushes The Arc in the same direction as the wind and therefore in the same direction as the waves this way the ark moves along the waves and not perpendicular to them getting slammed by the waves now how does this design successfully handle strong currents that’s right that skag or that fixed Rudder in the back because like the stem the the raised stem the rudder at the bottom it orients itself based on how the water pushes it so basically it’s like an underwater sail and and it turns the ark until the water flows with the ark and not against it so it’s kind of like a sail underneath the water and so these features are important for a safer and more comfortable ride especially if you have a big vessel now again we cannot say for sure that this is the way that Noah built the ark we cannot be totally dogmatic on this but Noah probably built something like this a truly seaworthy craft that was able to withstand the unique challenges of the Great flood the Bible’s not unreasonable when it gives us this flood design and says that this is the kind of waters that it faced no there is a way that we can understand that and say oh actually that’s quite reasonable God was perfect in his provision for the kind of vessel that would be the Lifeboat for man and animals and by the way as the objection that wooden boats are always leaky this is really only true of wooden boats since the Middle Ages ancient ship makers had a very labor intensive but effective way of uh a labor intensive but effective way of building Wooden Ships that not only kept out water but kept their boats light enough to carry on land now obviously you couldn’t do that with the ark but many ancients had that kind of technique and outcome this technique is called mortise and Tenon planking if you want to know what that is and find out how effective it was you can find it out from Answers in Genesis at their website answersingenesis.org or it’s in some of their book resources okay this was the first big objection we want to deal with the ark is not truly seaworthy actually it is Moses could have designed probably designed it in a way that would have made it eminently seaworthy but how did Noah cram all those animals all those animal species including those big dinosaurs on the ark I mentioned before somebody as soon as I told him I believe the Bible or is presenting the gospel he says but how did knowah fit all those animals on the ark that was his that was his defense that was his objection that discounted everything I had to say so this is not a random question well let’s look again at the text let’s look again at Genesis 6 this time the verses that come right after what we read before verses 17 to 22 Genesis 61 17-22 we read God speaking behold I even I am bringing the flood of water upon the Earth To Destroy All Flesh and which is the Breath of Life from under Heaven everything that is on the earth Shall Perish but I will establish my Covenant with you and you shall enter the ark you and your sons and your wife and your sons wives with you and of every living thing of All Flesh you shall bring two of every kind into the ark to keep them alive with you they shall be male and female of the birds after their kind of the animals after their kind and of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive as for you take for yourself some of all food which is edible and gather it to yourself and it shall be food for you and for them thus Noah did according to all that God had commanded him so he did all right we’re not going to look as in depth at this set of verses as the previous one but we do need to make one extremely important observation notice what phrase keeps repeating itself in verses 18 and 19 what phrase is that yes kind after their kind this phrase also prominently appears earlier in Genesis you remember in Genesis 1 we’re talking about creation God created the animals after their kind they were to reproduce the trees and animals were to reproduce after their kind now only needed two animals of each kind male and female and then 14 animals of each kind of clean Animal by the way why so many clean animals okay so uh Mark you mentioned sacrifices Glenda what did you say right so I think it’s both of those things now notably Before the Flood God says gather food for yourself and for the animals so whatever that men people were eating the animals were eating and up to this point people are only eating what comes from the ground so we would infer from that that so did animals animals were not meat eaters yet but after the flood it’s different God says I’m now giving you the animals for food and which animals would they they want to eat would they be inclined to eat eat would even maybe even allowed to eat according to whatever rules God had at that time it would be the clean animals so for sacrifice and perhaps for eating After the flood so God gave extra of a certain type of animal now you might remember from our previous Sunday school series studying Genesis 1 and2 the recreation accounts that kind is a very broad category it’s similar not quite the same it’s similar to the modern scientific designation of families we have species we have families for example lions tigers Bob cats house cats they’re all examples of the one cat kind or the cat family to use modern scientific terminology how many animals of the cat kind then did Noah need to take on the ark just two just two so he didn’t have to go find out all those different species of cat he just took two of the cat kind how about the various species of dog that we have today we have domesticated dogs we have wolves we have hyenas we have dingos we have coyotes we have African wild dogs how many of the dog kind did Noah need to bring on the ark just two now imagine that for every animal kind only two spiders only two beetles only two Hawks only two bats only two bears only two deer only two snakes only two frogs only two turtles Etc if that’s the way that Noah is told and actually did gather animals for the ark then that drastically cuts down on the amount of animals that Noah would have needed to support bring in and support it’s only two of each kind and this would have been true of the dinosaurs as well we classify many different species of dinosaur today as many as 700 from what we’ve gleaned so far from the fossil record but if you break them down into kinds like you see in the picture there there’re probably only about 50 dinosaur kinds and how could Noah have exercised some wisdom when it comes to fitting bigger animals like dinosaurs on the ark okay so just two of the kind but there are some pretty huge dinosaurs out there from what we can gather the Brontosaurus Brachiosaurus kind the sorod dinosaurs they’re quite huge how could he have fit two of those and two of those other huge animals on the ark right okay another all the same right right so that’s that’s a huge part of it so just getting the kinds so not necessarily getting all the species but Jonathan I think I heard you say something Coulda exactly bring the juvenile small versions of the dinosaurs there’s no reason to bring the full siiz brontosaurus when two young versions will do they could grow to full size in their years after leaving the ark meanwhile they’ll eat less and they’ll take up less space obviously Noah couldn’t take newborn animals on the ark as they would need motherly care but he most likely took younger travel-sized versions of the bigger animals with him on the ark I mean that’s just that’s a simple wisdom besides most animals actually aren’t that big even dinosaurs you may remember from something I said in the creation series but the average size from what we can tell today the average size of a full grown dinosaur was actually the size of a sheep and the average size of today’s animals is even smaller than that so animal size was probably not a big deal to Noah as he put the animals on the ark but you might be wondering just how many animal kinds are there how many pairs did Noah need to bring on the ark well if we take the number of scientifically classified families today the number would be about 5,000 to 6,000 however the kinds as the Bible describes them do not perfectly align with the family classifications that we use today in 2011 Answers in Genesis began a special research project seeking to determine the number of animal kinds if we use that term from the scriptures and we try and classify the animals today in in kinds how many would there be well according to a publication from 20 2013 based on their work up to that date the researchers estimated the number of Land and Animal Land and air animal kinds to be about 950 just 950 kinds now that means if we include the extra amount of clean animals and birds there were probably only about 2,000 animals on the ark maybe as much as 3,000 but probably about 2,000 animals on the ark now for such a large ship that is very manageable that is a very manageable number of animals so then how should we respond to those who object that Noah couldn’t possibly fit all the animal species on the ark simple he didn’t have to he was only instructed to bring pairs of different animal kinds moreover he likely exercised wisdom regarding the maturity of each kind of animal that he brought and he only took the younger versions of some of the bigger ones but someone will ask well are you saying then that all the diversity that we see within the kinds today happened in only the last 4,000 years or so I mean look at how different some of these animals within the kinds are you’re saying that that happened in such a short amount of time absolutely in fact it’s the best way to explain the rapid speciation that we see in today’s animals and we’re going to hear about this in another video short video just about three minutes also from Answers in Genesis so we’ll show that now [Music] camels and llamas so different and living on different continents yet able to breed together and produce young examples of bound of species that can be breed together zebras with horses [Music] tigers with lions potatoes with hot peppers and so on this amazes biologists based on Modern rates of change new species should quickly lose their ability to interbreed with other species so modern species that interbreed must have formed recently and rapidly it’s amazing that camels and llas though separated by oceans and thousands of miles came from the same parents in relative recent times so how could such major changes have Arisen so rapidly this is a mystery to biologists because they don’t see such widespread rapid change today and they don’t know of any natural process that can create the biological information necessary for such changes the biblical account of creation May provide the answer to this mystery readers have long known that domesticated plants and animals possess a huge reserve of information that can produce a stunning variety of shapes and functions most modern dogs for example came from just a handful of breeds in the 1600s and these dogs have a wide range of features that suit them for a wide variety of environments from sleding at the poles to hunting in the desert and none of that variety was put there by humans the information was already built into the dogs such of information can be found in cattle pheasants pigeons apples orchids and many other domesticated plants and animals if all the non-domesticated animals on the ark had this same wealth of information then we could understand how a single pair of cats could produce all known cats today cross breeding between domestic cats and wild cats between cougars and leopards between lions and tigers IND that all modern cat species are the same created kind the original cat kind carried all the information necessary to build the variety of cats we see today but where did this information come from in the first place the Bible reveals that God created all the animal and plant kinds in the beginning and we’re now learning that God placed a huge amount of information within each created kind allowing them to diversify into the Myriad of plants and animals we see today the information was there all there right from the start this is not Evolution from a lower form of life it’s creation by an all knowing all powerful infinitely wise Creator who is worthy of our worship and praise so then far from being helpless to the objections that Skeptics raise about the viability of the Ark the bible really stands unscathed there are very reasonable explanations as to what the ark probably looked like how it functioned and how it easily house all the kinds of animals on the ark including dinosaurs and as Answers in Genesis emphasizes not only did the ark accommodate all the animals but there was also still room when you calculate it all when you designate the space of the Ark there still would be more room for anyone who would repent believe God and get on the ark as I said in the beginning the Bible doesn’t need our explanations to prove its viability God has shown that his word is true every word of it is tested it cannot be broken nevertheless with these specific objections about the ark we can actually show people from the Bible and from just inferences based on the Bible that their objections are groundless we always ultimately want to point people back to the authority of scripture itself this is a word that proves itself now there are many other questions that people often raise about the ark for example how did eight people care for 2,000 plus animals for a whole year how did the animal spread out after the flood how did plants and aquatic animal Will Survive the flood we don’t have time to address those questions in full in our class but there are answers to those things answers of Genesis has many great resources in its books and on its website that address these questions and more so again I’ll point you to answersingenesis.org or to the answers and Genesis resources in our booknook and lending library you can find some specific explanations there but once more I must say even if we can’t explain specifically how God did it we know God clearly did did do it because it’s recorded in his word and we see the effects of it in our world today now that’s it for my material for today’s lesson what are some questions or comments you have based on what you heard yeah Diana yeah that’s a good question I haven’t fully thought through that Diana your question is from my own son who’s just over one now if the arc pictures are not entirely accurate how am I going to show it to my son now like I said I’m not on a campaign to say get rid of all these unrealistic desps but we we recognize that some of the things that we show kids they’re the more cut see they’re more fun just as long as we emphasize especially as they grow older that okay this is a fun version of it but it actually would have looked a little bit different than this and what what was the reason for this Arc it’s because man was uh turning against God and God sent a judgment and this is the only way to be saved now how that’s going to look for me and my son specifically I’m not entirely sure yet but it’s a matter of not so necessarily get rid of that thing but it’s more like let’s bring in the extra information along with this thing so we don’t get the wrong idea that’s my thought there good question though other questions or thoughts yeah Leela I never really thought about it until this lesson about implications of the global flood so if this were to happen right now it’s everyone that we know and love watching them perish yeah which is the reality of what is going on yeah but we don’t see it don’t always think about it and to stop and think about it you know God wants us to do yeah yeah we even as Christians who know the word of God let me repeat your comment so Le just talking about thinking about what the flood was in terms of what it would be today it’s everyone we know and love perishing including the the animals and and air creatures on the earth and we often don’t think about that even as Christians we’re aware okay there’s a judgment coming or that those who who don’t know God they they are under his wrath but think about what that looked like and what that will look like as we’ve already seen God uses what happened with the flood as a preview and as a picture of what’s going to happen in the future with the return of Christ with the fire that will come and cleanse this earth and the other judgments and it will be just like in the days of Noah Jesus says there will be people who are just going about their lives don’t believe there’s a judgment coming not ready for it at all they’re marrying and being given in marriage they eating and drinking they’re doing business following their hopes and dreams and the Judgment falls upon them suddenly now if we care about those people if we have God’s heart at all for those people and if we want to see God glorified we don’t just leave them there we say repent and be saved from this ungodly generation that answers Diana’s question too the happiness and colorfulness of the the children’s books is because those are the ones that are getting on the AR that’s right yeah so a good point Leela there is there is a certain amount of appropriateness in in the happiness and celebratory nature of the Ark because that’s for those who are saved and for even us as Christians we have a great joy when we think about how we are saved in Jesus Christ but that’s that should never be lost alongside the sobriety of what it’s like for those who are outside of God’s salvation who in one sense due to their own ignorance but in another sense due to their own willfulness saying I don’t want God and I don’t want anything to do with this salvation Glenda you add something I think serious about we look and when judg come is Jud so if we see God took the initiative to close the be the same Jud that’s true yeah yeah so Glenda again pointing out the parallel between God himself being the one who closed the door of the Ark and God himself will be the one to decide not just in a universal sense when okay here’s my time of judgment the day of the Lord has arrived but also in an individual sense when God says that’s enough time for you in your life I’ve given you enough time to repent I’ve given you enough time to turn back to me as God now it’s judgment only God’s the one who knows and decides that but because we don’t know first of all we need to make sure that we are right with God we’ve come through the only door of his salvation which is Jesus Christ but also that we are pleading and entreating and commanding those around us who don’t know God to repent and be saved we don’t know when the door is going to shut but it’s going to shut and they need to know that too anyone else good good comments and questions yeah who way I think there is also I would say some sort of divine intervention in all this process didn’t know exactly how to build the AR or know of winds yeah I mean that’s certainly true uh what hosway is bringing out that wouldn’t God have or did God also supernaturally preserve the ark along with maybe giving some wise things for Noah to do even if Noah didn’t do things perfectly didn’t God supernaturally preserve and that’s entirely possible though it’s not there is a way of thinking about this that wouldn’t require God’s extra Supernatural preservation now when you see God preserving saving rescuing in history a lot of the time it is merely providential now he does intervene in some ways that are directly miraculous but even today the way that he most often works is just Providence just my arrangement of circumstances just my working out my purposes through people through through my universe and so there’s a way of understanding what God did with Noah and the flood where he could have entirely or he could have preserved entirely Noah his family whatever God had deemed to preserve through his Providence through these wise provisions and through that that prophetic word given to Noah though it is also possible along with that or even in place of that that God supernaturally preserved it but either way the Bible is not unbelievable it’s not uh silly mythical uh ridiculous account no it’s quite reasonable and God is able to do it one way or another uh Anna just going back to how to teach the children in my experience as a teacher okay Christians through schools you cannot add anything to God’s word that’s good not to teach something that is not real but for each age you think about some truths so for for Noah’s in obedient you know that’s something because Noah was obedient he listened to God and he oby God is a a principle of Truth you know like we obedient trust in God and um and the love and the mercy of the Lord you don’t have to be add but there are some principles like that are true and you are teaching them in story and when they are getting older is when they you can add more and more there are some you can share with them they are three or four but there are things that yeah trust the Lord obey God and love and Mer right yeah so Anna is just bringing out just in simple wise pedagogy of children we know that there are there’s a certain level of understandability for the biblical text that’s going to be age appropriate now that doesn’t mean that as you said Anna that we leave out things from the Bible that are essential or that we add things to the Bible that are not uh justly to be inferred not not justly to be added but it is there are core principles and even specific truths at each age that we can emphasize and as they get older we add more but simple truth even as you said Anna with the the flood record and Noah’s Arc that God is merciful to provide a way of Salvation you must trust and obey the Lord and I think I mean I’ll see how this goes as my son gets older but there there is the basics of the Judgment of God is something that can be learned and understood even by young children it it always amazes me and I know many teachers can testify parents can Testify the understanding of children is much deeper than we expect even of some of the weighty spiritual truths of the Bible sometimes they get better than adults do actually and so we don’t want we don’t want to miss out on that opportunity and ability these are good questions and comments that’s it for our time today there are other things uh talk to me in church or send me an email at Pastor Dave calvary.org we have one more lesson on the flood and that’s next week we’re going to talk about the concept of an ice age and you say what what are you talking about the Bible doesn’t talking about an Ice Age how does that fit with the Bible’s description of Noah’s flood we’re going to talk about that next time because actually this is another way why the Bible’s flood account actually proves itself to be very reasonable and even a better explanation than what today’s celebrated scientists offer today for things like an ice age all right that’s next time let me close in prayer Lord thank you for this time thank you for your trustworthy word and thank you for your Lifeboat thank you for that original Lifeboat that’s the only reason why any of us are here today but thank you Lord for that spiritual Lifeboat who is is Jesus Christ and repentance in faith in Jesus Christ Lord that is the only salvation God I pray that we would not be foolish and miss out on that salvation ourselves nor un feeling to those around us Lord so that they would miss out Lord make us bold make us courageous make us love loving and make us zealous for you so that we would call people get on the Lifeboat go through the door embrace the only way truth in the life so that you may be saved from the Judgment that is to come in Jesus name amen thank you everyone for e e e for e e e e e for e e e e e e e e e e for e get

  • Lesson 8: The Worldwide Flood

    Lesson 8: The Worldwide Flood

    In this lesson, Pastor Dave Capoccia considers whether the account of Genesis 6-9 can be fairly interpreted as describing a local flood. Why do many Christians accept or are open to accepting a local flood explanation? What details of the biblical text, beyond the descriptors of total destruction, preclude a local flood interpretation? And how does a local flood view actually call into question the very faithfulness of God?

    The main text for this lesson is Genesis 6:1-9:19.

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    let’s open with a word of prayer heavenly father I pray that we would see more of your greatness today as we consider the flood but we also consider your mercy God help me to be able to explain this well and I pray that we would respond appropriately to it in Jesus name amen all right we continue in our study of the consequences of sin a study of Genesis 3-11 and lately we’ve been focusing on the flood the flood account in Genesis now last week we read the entire flood account from Genesis 6 to9 and we noted the level of detail regarding the timing of events during the flood as well as how those details reinforce that the flood account is to be read as true history we also saw how emphatic the text is about how every land and air creature died apart from those that were in the ark necessarily indicating that the flood was a global catastrophe but could Moses have been exaggerating could Moses have been exaggerating when he said all creatures on Earth died could he have only meant the creatures of a certain area after all the Hebrew word translated Earth in the flood passages it could also be translated as land that is a certain land not necessarily all land could the flood of Genesis 6 to9 have been a local flood moreover is it possible that all the land creatures and people that did exist in that day were only in a certain area say a valley therefore when a local flood came it did Destroy All Flesh because there was no flesh anywhere else let’s now confront these ideas head on as we ask was the flood really Global or not the answer to this question has implications for whether we can really trust the Bible how we are to understand the fossil record today and even whether God is a God who keeps his promises we’re going to approach this issue of a global versus a local flood from a few different angles here is our outline for today’s class we’re going to re-examine some descriptions of the flood in Genesis 7 to8 we will then test the rainbow promise given at the end of the flood account Genesis 9 and we’ll consider a few other flood Legends from around the world and see how that intersects with the question of is it a global or local flood but let’s start by going to Genesis 7 if you would take your Bibles turn to Genesis 7 on page six if you’re using the Pew Bibles we’ve already read the whole flood narrative together but I want to reread sections of it this time looking at certain texts that are relevant for our main question today of whether the flood was truly Global or not and we’re going to start with Genesis 7: 11-2 look at those verses with me Genesis 71- 12 in the 600th year of Noah’s life in the second month on the 17th day of the month on the same day all The Fountains of the great deep burst open and the floodgates of the sky were opened the rain fell upon the Earth for 40 days and 40 nights dump down to verses 17 to 24 then the flood Came Upon the Earth for 40 days and the water increased and lifted up the ark so that it Rose above the Earth the water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth and the Ark floated on the surface of the water the water prevailed more and more upon the Earth so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered the water prevailed 15 cubits higher and the mountains were covered all flesh that moved on the earth perished birds and cattle and beasts and every swimming thing that swims upon the Earth and all man kind of all that was on the dry land and all and in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of Life died actually we’ll read down to verse 24 thus he blotted out every living thing that was upon the face of the land from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky and they were blotted out from the earth and only Noah was left together with those who were with him on in them in the ark the water prevailed upon the Earth 150 days now let’s read just the first two verses of chapter 8 but God remembered Noah and all the beasts and all the cattle that were with him in the ark and God caused the wind to pass over the earth and the water subsided also The Fountains of the deep and the floodgates of the sky were closed and the rain from the sky was restrained all right so from just these texts that we’ve reread from the flood narrative let’s make some observations notice what words or ideas are repeated in these sections we constantly see the words all and every especially when referring to the death of all things on the earth this is very inclusive language we have the repetition of 40 days and 40 nights we have the repetition of Fountains of the great deep and floodgates of the sky and the mentioning of rain we also have prevailed and increased mentioned repeatedly speaking of water now notice precisely from where the flood waters came it is from the floodgates of the sky and The Fountains of the great deep notice how high the waters Rose the highest mountains were covered it says and the water prevailed over them 15 cubits higher there’s that Cubit again what’s a cubit remember the Cubit is an ancient length of measurement of about 18 to 20 inch the length of the elbow to the fingertips let’s actually do a little bit of math conversion here if we want to understand this statement the water prevailed 15 cubits higher what does that equal in feet well let’s assume we’re dealing with a cubit of about 20 in if the water prevailed 15 cubits higher than the mountain peaks and we’re dealing with a cubit that’s 20 in long how many feet is that I know I’m asking you to do some quick math but the answer is 25 ft and I’ll give you the math 15 cubits time 20 in per cubit 15 * 20 equal 300 in but we need to convert that into feet so 300 in divid 12 in per foot equals 25 ft so the water was 20 ft above even the highest mountains of the Earth or land that’s how high the waters Rose above the earth now with this data let’s consider a theoretical situation imagine a valley surrounded by high mountains with the ark sitting in the middle let’s say a flood happens only in that Valley the waters begin to rise and so does the Ark finally the water reaches to the tops of the highest mountains what would happen to the water if it Rose goes even slightly above the tops of those mountains okay so as soon as it covers the water what’s going to happen or as soon as it covers the mountains what’s going to happen to it if it’s just in a valley it’s going to spill over onto the other sides right it’s going to spill over to the other sides so is it possible for water to cover the hills of a valley by 20 ft but only be contained in the valley no unless we have something like this which is clearly absurd so let’s now interpret this information a little bit more besides the description of universal death what from this passage plainly indicates that the flood was global right including the mountains even by 25t higher if water covered the mountains by more than 20t it must have been a global flood otherwise we have that absurd situation we were talking about now is causing a global flood beyond the ability of God of course not he can do that and he did do that now the phrases that we noted in the passage from from where the water comes Fountains of the great deep floodgates of the sky these are partly metaphorical there are no literal gates in the sky so to what do these actually refer Fountains of the great deep floodgates of the sky right the floodgates of the sky is just a metaphorical term for referring to the water that comes from the sky even the clouds Even the Rain what about The Fountains of the deep Mike that’s true so Mike mentioned in the earlier accounts talking about how the Earth was watered it talked about a mist or some kind of water coming from the ground so this would definitely be tied with that but it does say Fountains of the great deep what’s the great deep and usually that’s a term for the oceans so we have some sort of underwater source of water that God unleashes into the Earth for the flood we have rain from the sky but also Springs of water from within the Earth and apparently under the ocean these would be The Fountains of the great deep now because these ocean sping Springs were probably within the crust of the Earth the gushing water that God brought forth likely was very hot and that would have caused rainclouds to form so that would only reinforc water coming from both directions now based on the verses we’ve read and their context could the author of Genesis have been intending to communicate that the flood was local and not Global no it cannot be if you’re going to say it was a local flood you’re going against what the author is indicating because he is giving multiple ways of showing you that it is a global flood now as I mentioned some people have asserted that the flood was local but had Universal effects they assert that all those who were affected by the flood lived in the same place as Noah therefore when a local flood came all creatures on Earth were affected because they were all still living in that local area this assertion is kind of nice because it allows a person to seemingly confess the global effects of the flood and seemed to affirm scripture while also keeping intact the presupposition that the fossil layer of the earth which today’s scientists tell us have been built up over millions and millions of years they remained undisturbed by the flood that’s the problem with the global flood right it’s going to mess up the fossil record so let’s just say it was a local flood with global effects the fossil record remains undisturbed but why should we reject the assertion that the flood was local but had Global effects yeah again right so again just paying attention to the descriptions of the Genesis passage the inclusive language and the idea that it can cover the mountains and still be 25 ft higher it just doesn’t fit a local flood with global effects just doesn’t fit with the descriptions of the passage but not just that it’s silly to think that no animals or people lived outside Noah’s area I mean how many years after creation are we when the flood takes place according to the genealogies of Genesis more than 1600 years considering the extremely long lifespans of people which are recorded in the Bible and animals reproductive capacity you’re telling me that no people and no animals lived outside the area of Noah by now it should be clear that Moses communicated in his book that the flood really happened this is a historical event and it was a global event it was a global flood but there’s more because God’s covenant involving the rainbow given in Genesis 9 it proves again that the flood must have been Global and let’s see this ourselves look over at Genesis 9: 8-17 Genesis 98-117 so weall the context here the flood has lasted for little more than a year Noah his family and his animals the animals they’ve come out of the Ark they’ve just come out of the Ark and Noah has finished offering sacrifices to God God is pleased and then he makes a number of promises including this one starting in verse 8 so Genesis 9: 8-1 17 then God spoke to Noah and to his sons with him saying now behold I myself do establish my Covenant with you and with your descendants after you and with every living creature that is with you the birds the cattle and every beast of the Earth with you of all that comes out of the Ark even every beast of the earth I establish my Covenant with you and All Flesh shall never again be cut off by the water of the flood neither shall there again be a flood to destroy the Earth God said this is the sign of the Covenant which I am making between me and you and every living creature that is with you for all successive Generations I set my bow in the cloud and it shall be a sign of a covenant between me and the Earth it shall come about when I bring a cloud over the Earth that the bow will be seen in the cloud and I will remember my Covenant which is between me and you and every living creature of All Flesh and never again shall the water become a flood to destroy all flesh when the bow is in the cloud then I will look upon it to remember the Everlasting Covenant between God and every living creature of All Flesh that is on the earth and God said to Noah this is the sign of the Covenant which I have established between me and All Flesh that is on the Earth all right let’s make some observations on this section this is God speaking to Noah and his sons oh clicker oh there it is but with whom is this Covenant Generations all generations that would be all generations of people but only them all successive Generations okay all all successive generations of people but it’s not just them with all the animal that live on the earth in fact God even says I make this Covenant with the Earth the Covenant is made with man and all living creatures we often refer to this Covenant as the noic Covenant but truly this Covenant Embraces more than Noah more than Noah’s family more than know his descendants it’s with all creatures that dwell upon the Earth even with the Earth itself notice who establishes the Covenant God does notice what is Promised in the Covenant God says he will never again destroy the Earth or all its inhabit an with water God even says in Genesis 8:21 if we just skip back to the previous chapter Genesis 821 the Lord that is Yahweh smelled the soothing Aroma and Yahweh said to himself I will never again curse the ground on account of man for the intent of man’s heart is evil from his Youth and I will never again destroy every living thing as I have done notice what are the terms that God says that are going to keep the Covenant in place there are none aside from God’s Own promise as we just read in this verse go Genesis 8:21 God even acknowledges man’s continual wickedness it’s not like man has been reformed Changed by the flood therefore it’s not as if man’s righteousness is going to keep this Covenant in place no God is just doing it all by himself despite what man is still in his heart God also calls this Covenant an eternal Covenant that is there is no seeing the end of it and then he gives a sign of the Covenant the rainbow now it’s not actually called a rainbow in the original text just called a bow what is a bow okay we think of the shape but the shape actually comes from a device that we know as a b what is that device we’re thinking about a bow and arrow right usually actually I think in our language we don’t usually refer to a bow as the shape we usually refer to a bow as a weapon we also refer to a bow as a ribbon and that’s totally a different thing in Hebrew the word for bow indicates the ranged Weapon It’s not a word for shape it’s a it’s a a weapon though it does have a distinctive shape and it’s true the shape and curvature of a rainbow it does resemble that ancient weapon with with with which the Israelites would have been quite familiar with notice the purpose for which God sets this bow in the clouds it is for God to see it and to remember his Covenant the implication though also is that man will see it and know that the Covenant is still in place how long ago from today was this Covenant given according to the information from the genealogy in Genesis 11 if the flood occurred around 2350 BC and it’s 2024 a now just add those two together minus one because there is no year zero and you get about years are rainbows still evident in the sky today yes they are and they’re very beautiful let me ask you some questions based on those observations what is the significance of God choosing a bow as the sign of his Covenant hey Mark isn’t there a the Psalms God his anding his judgment so I think I haven’t really studied that specifically but it seems to have that implication yeah Mark’s noting that in the Psalms God’s judgment is sometimes described metaphorically as his unleashing his bow I think we’re used to thinking about this bow in the clouds the sign of the Covenant as merely just being a reference to shape God saying you’re going to see the shape in the clouds and you’ll know my Covenant is in place and that’s certainly true but I would say that it’s more than that because God didn’t have to use the term specifically referring to a weapon and saying that God set his bow in the cloud it’s like God is saying I’m hanging up a weapon of judgment I’m hanging up this devastating weapon of judgment I’m laying aside the bow of the flood and I promise never to take it up again I’m putting my bow in the clouds so that everybody can see it including myself thus seeing the rainbow should both sober us and assure us we Glimpse in a sense the weapon that once destroyed the Earth but we also Glimpse God’s promise never to use that weapon again indeed has there ever been another flood that covered the entire Globe since God made his Covenant no so which attribute of God does the Covenant sign emphasize yes his Mercy what else yeah his truthfulness his trustworthiness his faithfulness God keeps his promises he says I’m not going to use this weetman again and I haven’t I won’t but have there been local floods since God made this Covenant even local floods that were quite devastating destroying vast areas of land killing thousands of man and animals they have occurred since the since this Covenant was instituted since this sign was given we’ve had many local floods they still occur today so how does believing in a local flood in Genesis cause God to be an Unfaithful Covenant breaker do you see the flow of reasoning if the flood was indeed local and God promis never again to flood the world as he had done and God has clearly violated that promise thousands of times the rainbow instead of being a sign of God’s mercy and faithfulness becomes the ultimate sign of hypocrisy because God says I’m never going to unleash this weapon again oh just kidding I’m I’m unleashing it all the time you see there are many many problems with trying to make The Genesis Flood anything other than a global global cataclysm as we’ve already seen the language of the flood account is emphatic of universal death and destruction the description of the Rising water makes a local flood impossible the rainbow Covenant would make a promise about no more deadly local floods to be a lie but there’s still more consider if the flood were a local event then the ark is not necessary at all what could Noah and the rest of the people for that matter do to escape the flood they could have just moved they could have migrated out of the valley and the Ark according to the text was apparently important for repopulating the Earth afterwards but if the flood was local how could the Earth have be been repopulated instead the land be repopulated instead just bring another man and animals who weren’t in that area the whole flood judgment and Ark salvation seems needlessly SL Cy if only a local flood is in view as I say there are huge problems in taking Genesis 6:9 as anything other than a global flood it makes nonsense of the text in spite of all this however many Christian teachers do assert a local flood or they are open to its possibility how can this be how can this be when the text is so clear that the flood was Global what would you say what right ultimately it comes down to they don’t believe the word but why not Dwayne Dwayne they don’t believe in right so Dwayne is given a good explanation the reason for taking a local flood is tied to what you think about creation and for many even Christians what they think about creation and the creation account is heavily influenced by the ideas and the Declarations of those who are considered wise in the world today even scientists it is because Christians Christian teachers wish to or feel compelled to accommodate secular thinking wisdom that they posit a local flood against the clear meaning of the text as you know the prevailing wisdom of our day is naturalist uniformitarian and evolutionary naturalism is the belief that only natural process not natural processes not Supernatural or spiritual forces must expl exp all that occurs in the world this is obviously not a provable assumption it is just assumed we’re going to explain everything only with natural explanations uniformitarianism is the belief that all natural processes that we observe today can and must explain what occurred in the past including the appearance of the fossil record the present is the key to the Past evolutionary theory not only sees that the world went from molecules to man protoplasm to people but also that many if not all of the world’s processes move according to or all the world’s development no let me say this many if not all processes in the world proceed according to slow gradual development not just biologically but even socially intellectually religion according to evolutionary thought must be explained from the same mind mindset people started out primitive worshiping spirits but then as they developed they worshiped many gods and then they developed and they worshiped one God and then when they developed they worshiped no Gods at all because now they’re truly enlightened which is what we are today they say now these are the ideas that are considered wise sophisticated today naturalism uniformitarianism evolutionary theory so when people of this age scientists do research in the fields of geology and paleontology and they bring in these values these anti-biblical worldview components anti-biblical in the sense that they oppose the scripture or they ignore the scripture when people bring that worldview and look at geological data fossil data they do not see evidence of a global flood they see layers of rock and fossils that could only have been laid down gradually over millions of years that have never been disrupted could never have been disrupted by any Global cataclysm and because this view is popular those who hold to it ridicule and put pressure on Christians to get on board with what has been in their minds clearly proven a scientific fact a lot of people will tell you that science has established that these things are true the world was formed a certain way the continents came about a certain way this is fact there was no flood only unreasonable and Antiquated people still believe in a global flood that’s the idea objective science objective science has proven otherwise so many Christians today do what Christians started to do in the early 1800s when Bible disbelieving geologists first started to claim that was no evidence of a global flood in the fossil record there was only evidence for gradual geological change the formation of the Earth’s Rock layers over millions and billions of years and Under Pressure not wanting to seem unsophisticated backwards lose their ability to witness to people the gospel Christians began placing man’s authoritative claims above the Bible’s authoritative claims thus for some like Thomas Thomas Chalmers who was the inventor of the gap Theory this meant searching for a new interpretation of the biblical text that does not come from the text itself I’ve got to I’ve got to re understand the scriptures because I got to fit man’s ideas in but for others like friederick schlocker who is the father of theological liberalism it meant a total denial of the historicity of the Bible it’s all just a bunch of madeup stories to help us feel our dependence on God who truly does exist but we pretty much can’t know anything about him because the Bible’s unreliable that’s basically the only way you can accommodate man’s wise thinking so-called wise thinking you either have to reinterpret the scriptures or you have to deny it but we must not go that way science has not disproven the Bible or disproven a global flood what has happened rather is that secular scientists have given an interpretation of the data fossil data Rock data that is according to their own worldview in a sense they’ve merely made sure to discover what they already assume to be true if you assume there’s no such thing as the supernatural if you assume that nothing like a world alter event like the flood has taken place well then you’re going to find what you’re looking for actually their interpretations when examine them more closely under proper presuppositions they do not make good sense of the scientific data now we’ve come to know by God’s grace that God exists and that the Bible is true in every part and that Jesus is Lord we have learned that the bible really is the foundation for what is true therefore we ought not to vacillate for a moment on anything which the Bible makes plain is a global flood taught plainly in the Bible Bible it is the flood was not a local flood in Mesopotamia or on the edge of the Black Sea the biblical text does not allow for that interpretation at all neither was the flood a tranquil flood I don’t know if you’ve heard of that before the Tranquil flood Theory the flood was not a tranquil flood that is one that did that was Global yet did not disturb at all the millions of years of fossil record in the earth which again is key to preserving modern scientific theory because that kind of flood is contrary to the laws of physics it would require God to miraculously keep the flood calm for its duration and then remove the waters miraculously without any major erosion taking place besides the language of the biblical text does not indicate a calm flood with deep sea Springs bursting open floodgates opening in the sky this was a tumultuous time on Earth this was no tranquil flood not to mention a tranquil flood could perhaps be survived but if it’s a cataclysm with massive waves and tectonic forces no one’s surviving that even if you have a boat if it’s not the ark nor was the flood account mythical a grand allegory or Legend from Moses it’s presented as detailed history it’s affirmed by the apostles it’s affirmed by God himself Jesus as we saw last week Jesus uses Noah’s flood as an analogy in the gospels for his own coming judgment this cannot be an allegory this cannot be a myth rather just as it was in the days of Noah it shall be in the days when Jesus comes to judge a flood really happened it really was Global and when you look at this from a Biblical when you look at the data when you look at what scientists have discovered what is observable in the world from a Biblical World viiew actually the Bible makes good sense of it better sense than the supposedly wise scientists deny the Bible try to make of it and I’m going to show you some reasons for that let’s consider some extra biblical data supporting a global flood assessed from a Biblical worldview that is we’re going to try and think about what how do we interpret what we see in the world when we rightly start from God’s word God’s reliable world word now since the flood did happen and was Global what would we expect to find in the world as a result if the flood really did happen really was Global everything died the world was reformed what would we expect to find sea creature fossils on yes we would expect to find first of all lots of dead things buried in the Earth but second of all we would expect to find maybe some of those dead things even aquatic dead things in odd places like at the tops of mountains actually interestingly in the ancient world people thought that when you found fossils of like shells and things on the tops of the mountains they thought it was The Gods playing tricks on man they said this doesn’t make any sense this must be a joke from the gods what else might we expect to find this really happened um say that again Glenda yeah bones fossils yes Mike what were you going to say right yeah so there should be some consistency in how the fossils and The Rock layers are actually formed because would all be through the the same event something else that we might expect to find is that accounts of the flood what the world calls flood Legends would exist in cultures scattered across the Earth after all if the flood left only four families to repopulate the Earth and shortly after the flood at Babel the descendants of those families were scattered then we expect some memory of the flood to be told and preserved through all the peoples of the earth Noah Shem ham and japheth they surely told their descendants about the flood we would not be surprised at all to see stories similar to the Bible’s flood account and many cultures and places and I actually want to show you some of these because it’s quite remarkable we do a little activity involving flood Legends in just a moment but specul speculate with me just for a minute beforehand we’ve all played the game telephone or know about it we wouldn’t expect flood Legends to line up completely with the Bible there are some things mentioned in the Genesis account that we might expect to be changed in various flood Legends details like the number of days the size of the boat the size of the family that got onto the boat the reason for the flood the being who sent the flood maybe they’ll call it a different deity or deities i’ expect Noah’s name to be changed the extent of the flood that could be changed nevertheless there are certain aspects of the flood that we would expect very likely to stay the same in local flood Legends I’m sorry Global flood Legends such as one Central male figure who’s different from the other on the earth a very destructive flood a boat that saves That central figure from the flood and animals with that person on the boat we would expect to see those things so what do we actually see let me show you three actual flood Legends these come from Hawaii ancient Babylon and ancient Assyria now I don’t have time to present to you translations of the ancient text from which these come but I’m going to give you a paraphrase give you a summary read to you some of the main details and display them for you on the screen now the writing might get a little bit small I’m sorry if you in the back can’t see it but just listen to me as I describe it I want you to read these three these details of three flood Legends with me and then we’ll ask some follow-up questions so from Hawaii we have this story that after the death of the first man the Earth became Wicked nuu was the only good man left nuu built a canoe with a house on it and and he filled it with animals the Earth was flooded and only nuu and his family survived Nu’s canoe landed on Mount AIA nuu offered a sacrifice to the Moon thinking it had saved him but Kan the Creator God descended on a rainbow to correct Nu’s mistake moving over to Babylon after the death of os zissu zisu thros reigned and there was a great flood Z thros received a vision from Kronos where he was told the flood would come on the 15th day of Doos zus thros was to build a boat and bring his friends and family aboard along with provisions and birds and four-legged animals the boat was 3,000 ft long and 1200 ft wide Z suos sent out birds as the flood receded until they returned with Muddy feet and then did not return zos offered sacrifice IES After the flood and was eventually taken to dwell with the gods one more this from Samaria this is actually from the Epic of Gilgamesh udap was commanded to build a boat of reads by the by the god a the boat was to have six decks and be a cube measuring 200t on all sides workers were hired to build the boat and they covered it with waterproofer the boat was loaded with living things and utaps friends and relatives the god shamash sealed the door and the flood began the land was shattered like a pot and all the people turned to Clay the flood lasted 6 days and the gods were sorry for sending the flood the boat landed on Mount nush and Ravens doves and swallows were released the animals were let off the boat and utnapishtim offered sacrifices to the gods now just based on those three Legends and the details I presented to you from them let’s make some comparisons what ideas are common to these three flood Legends there was a flood a very destructive flood what else a singular male figure who was uh Central to what happened with the flood and and people being preserved Tina presed yeah people and animals being preserved what else okay so there are different gods mentioned than say the god of the Bible uh one does mention a Creator God but you have Moon and other gods who seem to be involved what else first okay you do have mentioned the first man dying though that wasn’t mentioned in all three accounts interesting that the Hawaiian account did mention that let’s not miss one of the biggest things there’s a boat the boat is the uh the thing that that saves the central figure and the animals in each account um Isaiah are you going to say something sacrifice sacrifices made at the end yeah that was common to the accounts what else I think we’ve hit the main ones a God or God sends the flood judgment on the earth in these accounts man a man and his family are saved the man builds a boat the man takes animals onto The Boat Boat eventually lands on a mountain and the man offers sacrifices after passing through the flood what elements are different or missing compared to the biblical account L of time okay the the timing of the flood that’s not that’s not consistent with what the Bible says we already mentioned there are different gods mentioned as being involved with the flood what else okay one of the accounts did mention that a god a god shut the ark but not not all the accounts mention that what else okay so I think Mark also mentioned that but the the the number of days of the flood the timing of the flood events that’s different the reason for the flood is definitely different the though the Hawaiian account does mentioned that man had become Wicked and not all the accounts say that I think it’s the the Epic of Gilgamesh account that the reason for the flood was that the man was actually making too much noise and the gods were getting kind of irritated so they sent the flood that’s definitely different in these flood mentions or these these flood Legends I’ll mention some other ones so we have the we don’t have the one true creator god mentioned we don’t have the proper dimensions of the Ark mentioned the details of the flood timing are different God’s rainbow promise is not present now one or I think maybe two one mentioned that a rainbow was involved but there’s no rainbow promise and then the reason for the flood the wickedness of men and the violence on the earth that’s not explicit in these accounts now here’s an important question does it make more sense to say that these accounts were developed based on the Bible or that the Bible’s account borrows from these other flood Legends this is an important question because the way you answer it depends on what you believe about the Bible certainly we know that the Bible is the word of God and therefore it must give the original and true account but do you notice along with that in addition to that do you notice any details in these other flood legends that detract from their sense of authenticity you read that and you say that doesn’t make sense I don’t think that really happened canoe yeah the canoe right this canoe with a house on it that doesn’t seem like it’s going to do very well in a flood or we think about the description of the Ark in the Epic of gilgames a cube that is not going to do well if the flood is at all tumultuous that cube is going to tip over and then everything else inside is going to get hurt yeah we have some descriptions like these in these other flood Legends which to trct from their a authenticity now when it comes to how the ark actually is constructed and and how it would be quite worthy for enduring the flood we’re going to talk about that in next Sunday next week’s Sunday school class but these differences in detail in these other accounts they’re not too surprising because like we said telephone as centuries go by maybe the original descendants of shmh and jith they had the accurate account of the flood in their minds well the record gets passed down details get lost exaggerated simplified new elements are introduced like different gods or multiple gods they become added so because the Bible is actually original and authentic we are not surprised that there are differences even ones that don’t make sense in these other flood Legends because they are derivative they are derivative of the true account on what actually happened but this again comes from our worldview one’s worldview greatly affects with what one does with the data of the world in connection with the flood even these flood Legends and there are many more by the way Beyond these three these are not the only three flood Legends in the world there are more actually I think you can find out more answers in genesis.com but a secularist someone who doesn’t believe the Bible who ignores or actually opposes the Bible he looks at these flood Legends and he says Ah see this is more evidence of my worldview the Bible clearly borrowed from the pagans and is not Divine that’s why why it has so many commonalities or they might conclude differently by saying apparently primitive societies all felt the need to believe in the Divine who would save them or who did save them from a cataclysm event cataclysmic event like a flood but that is to be expected as part of the evolutionary process of religion it just so happens that something about the way we are as people we all feel the need to believe in a flood account and that’s why you see it across these District cultures this didn’t actually happen this is just evidence of man’s uh evolutionary progress in religion now this secular view this anti-biblical view while downplaying and twisting the significance of the data it does not really answer well why the flood Legends are so widespread culturally and geographically and why the Bible’s account is the most reasonable okay yes there are some ridiculous things in these other accounts but why does the Bible’s account actually make makes sense again someone with a Biblical worldview we look at the same data what the Bible says what we see in the world what we see in these flood Legends and we say oh but actually this makes very good sense because there was a flood and because all people are descendants of the survivors of that flood and because the record of the flood is disseminated all over the world that’s why we see this the Bible’s version is so reasonable because the Bible is supernaturally inspired it’s accurate it’s authoritative nevertheless there are true memories of this event because it actually happened and because the Bible is trustworthy in summary a secularist he would want to assert that the flood Legends detract from the believability of the Bible but the opposite is actually true when viewed from a Biblical worldview the presence of worldwide flood Legends and the competency of the biblical account they only serve to affirm that God did in fact judge the world with a global flood in the ancient days of the Earth let me ask you a few application questions actually more than a few I think I got five or six let me ask you some application questions based on what we’ve seen thus far as you interact with people what is the most likely objection to the flood of account in Genesis you say oh look what the Bible says about what happened in the past what’s the most likely reaction or objection from people to whom you present that well I think they look at these other like the Epic of Giles I hear that a lot well they’re all equally ridiculous they’re all equally obviously fiction yeah and I think you just addressed that by you Ed the word confidence to describe it’s just it’s just so different when you read the biblical account with its precision and it’s the type of language you know yeah yeah so Mark you’re saying that probably people are going to say like these other flood Legends this is this is ridiculous you can’t actually believe that even though compared to the other flood Legends the Bible actually makes good sense it it shows his competency Mike what were you going to say okay so we did talk about that objection before too but someone might say well this is simply cruel this this cannot be good this cannot be uh true that God would actually do something like this if there really is a God because it’s so unkind uh Steve you’re gonna say something re right that’s yeah so Steve mentioning that someone might fixate on the fact that it doesn’t seem reasonable that the world would be covered the entire world will be covered with water and where would that water come from and the mountains are High um this must be an exaggeration if true it must be an exaggeration I think certainly there are people who just say it’s a myth or that it’s it’s too CR too cruel to be believed but for many they’ll simply say well yeah I I can get behind that maybe something like this happened but not truly a global flood this is an exaggeration this is a local flood in Mesopotamia Noah was just a guy lived in the ancient world and he had this special flood experience but this wasn’t a global event this wasn’t a judgment of God on all the Earth it would seem like an exaggeration but again going back to what Mark said and what we just covered oh I’m sorry um what’s ironic though and I and and Steve I think you were getting at this is that the idea that the flood is an exaggeration or couldn’t really happen is a little bit ironic when you think about it at least with today’s thinking because our world today is 70% covered by water and many deny that there was ever a global flood well Mars is 0% covered by water but what’s the thinking of today about Mars it used to be a water Planet it used to have water everywhere there’s no water right now and yet we have so much water and people say no no no we we could never have had a global flood but many many would think that it’s a myth or even many more would think that it’s an exaggeration but we have the reliable Biblical word that even demonstrates itself to be competent and presents itself as authentic history with that though let me ask you this question as we talk with unbelievers should we use various flood legends from around the world to prove that the biblical flood really happened the key word is prove though the flood Legends are consistent with the flood actually happening and support the Bible’s account they cannot prove that the Bible is accurate the text of the Bible itself is always the best way to show someone the truth show someone reality this word is evidence of itself it testifies of itself so what we should say our general stance should be the Bible is true in its account of the global flood you can even see that in the way that it’s written based on that we would expect to see flood Legends around the world not fully accurate but we would expect to see flood Legends around the world we do which just points it affirms the absolute truthfulness of the Bible however if these Legends did not exist that might be a little bit surprising but the Bible would still be completely trustworthy we don’t need the flood Legends to prove the Bible but they do offer extra support because the Bible is true next question I think you have already gotten the idea for the answer to this what elements of the text of Genesis 6:9 could you use to point someone to the global nature of the flood inclusive language all every the repetitive proclamations of universal death the description of the extent the rising Waters the rainbow Covenant promise number four when talking with a fellow Christian who believes or has been taught that the flood was only a local event how would you approach correcting their understanding well we should always use a prayerful loving attitude that truly seeks to do benefit to others if we’re going to correct them ultimately what we would want to do is ask our brother or sister to examine the text carefully some may have accepted the interpretation of a local flood or a mythical flood without actually paying attention to what the page says actually looking carefully at the passage themselves we want to help them do that have you considered this look at this we should address oh we should also address the questions of what has ultimate Authority and what anti-biblical assumptions underg modern scientific assertions when I’ve had conversations with people about whether the Bible’s account of creation or whether the Bible’s account of the flood or history and literal a lot of people are stuck behind well science has proven that these can’t be true but that’s an opportunity to say but do you understand where those scientific interpretations came from they are interpretations of data rather than simply presentations of the data itself let’s address what assumptions are in that interpretation and then you’ll see actually uh there’s a way of interpreting the data that is intellectually sound reasonable but affirms the truthfulness and authority of the scripture so help people actually look at the text and help them understand the assumptions that go in the interpretation of the data that we see in the world today number five as we talk partly talked about last week the rainbow has been hijacked by many different groups as a symbol for their causes it’s used as a multicultural symbol a symbol of Hope a symbol of obtaining wealth without effort and of course a symbol for those who engage in sexually perverse Lifestyles but how could you use the rainbow as a way to engage someone in a gospel centered conversation we did talk about this it can be as simple as asking about the rainbow whenever you see one hey I see you wearing a rainbow pin or patch why do you wear it and you can follow it up with well do you know what God says in the Bible about the rainbow and if that person seems willing to listen it could then be a good opportunity to talk about God’s kindness God’s faithfulness and God’s holiness exemplified in the flood account and how that even connects with the Gospel of Jesus and my last question that goes along those same lines how can we connect the flood to the gospel basically do the same thing as the New Testament writers the flood shows the Holiness of God and judging the wickedness of men it shows the kindness of God in preserving Noah and in God’s promise to never flood the Earth again and it shows that God has promised I’m sorry not it shows but the Bible shows that God has promised he will one day judge the Earth again like he did in the days of Noah and so that’s why we need Jesus explain that Jesus is the only savior from the coming judgment which is going to be just like the Judgment of the flood the flood very easily points to the gospel all right that’s my material for today couple minutes questions about what you heard and if no questions I can do comments too yeah Mark just think about fossils um I know there’s various ways fossils are formed but my understanding is that for the majority of them it requires a catastrophic event right like we just normal life just layers of Life fossils just don’t my understanding um so are you know are there ways scientists try to get around that I mean you do need some sort of catastrophic events to explain what we see is right yeah I think you are right Mark not a scientist but from what I’ve read from good resources especially in answers and Genesis do.com you are quite right our understanding is fossils need certain conditions to be formed they have to be covered quickly as in in a cataclysmic event rather than oh something just died on the surface and then sand blew over it or something like that that doesn’t usually happen because if something dies like that it gets picked off by Caron or broken down by bacteria it has to be buried it has to be rapidly buried and most things don’t have that happen to them but it would have happened like that in the flood which explains all the fossils that we have that’s connected with a question that sometimes people ask they say why is it we see so few human bones in the fossil record in fact I I not aware of human bones at all in what are considered the rock layers the ancient Rock layers human bones don’t exist there but you see lots of animal bones why is that why would that be if I remember correctly one of the ways that answered in Genesis responded to that is because when when the flood came about humans were trying to save themselves from the flood they didn’t just sit around and wait for the you know the flood to cover them they are doing their best to escape and survive the flood so they remain on the surface they’re not um they’re not necessarily as they wouldn’t be susceptible to being covered like the animals would and so you don’t see human fossils but you do see the animal fossils anyways Tina pre and thetion is theyve from there has no evidence F bones you see the shells orish and so they use that to help you streng yeah so Tina talking about well the fact that there aren’t they don’t appear to be human fossils does that strengthen the argument that there’s some kind of ma Evolution that took place in the past a fish evolved into another creature you don’t see anything like a man or a transition creature in the fossil record you only see the animal so maybe that’s evidence that you have a much longer time of creatures evolving rather than anything evolving quickly into a man I suppose so but again it’s it’s how you interpret the data based on your own worldview there’s a major problem with assuming macro evolution because it’s never been observed which is kind of ironic if scientists are supposed to be basing everything on their understanding of the past based on what they observe in the present we’ve never observed macro Evolution we’ve only observed micro Evolution which is basically sometimes called adaptation or natural selection where genetic information is lost because certain things die out in a certain certain place and only what is succeeding in that environment passes on its genetic information that is observable and creationists will affirm that but the assumption is oh because that’s observable macro Evolution must have also taken place that’s a that does not follow yet it’s key for the evolutionary argument so you got major problems with the evolutionary worldview um but if you just kind of smooth over those problems or uh assume solutions that don’t have evidence then you can look at the fossil record and say oh the fact that we see no man actually supports my theory but again biblical worldview makes much better sense of it and there are there are major problems with assuming something that goes against the scriptures even with the data that is available in the world other good uh these are good questions and I’ll point you again to the resources of Answers in Genesis because they focus on Genesis they focus on creation the flood and they they deal with a lot of the specific questions of well how about this and how could this be and what do you do with this fossil and um some of the questions that you might have so I’d recommend the website we have a number of their resources also in the booknook and and the lending library I think also so definitely check those out but that’s it for this week if you have other questions um that you don’t find an answer readily in any of those other resources you can ask me about it just send me an email but for next week as I said earlier we’re going to consider the ark the construction and shape of the Ark was such a boat able to handle the tumultuous Waters of the flood and how did Noah fit all those animals on there I think I remember talking with somebody who I was trying to give the gospel to and then he brought up that objection out of nowhere but how did Noah get all those animals on the ark that became like a little defense I can’t believe the Bible because how to knowah get all those animals in the ark well there’s an answer to that a very reasonable answer and we’ll talk about that next time let me close this in prayer Lord thank you for your word thank you for your mercy thank you Lord for your Holiness even even as it is demonstrated in in terrifying judgment Lord we thank you that you have saved us from the Judgment but so many of our fellow humans Lord the judgment is ready to fall on them and they’re not ready so God I pray that you’d give us a love and a boldness and a confidence to speak to them your truth so that they might be rescued from a different kind of flood that is to come in Jesus name amen